From owner-marxism-international  Sat Apr  5 19:08:20 1997
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 02:08:11 +0200 (MET DST)
Message-Id: <199704060008.CAA24635@mailbox.swip.net>
From: m-18043@mailbox.swipnet.se (Stuart Sheild)
Subject: Re: M-I: PANIC LEFT: TAKE THREE

>On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Brian M Ganter wrote:
>> the center.  One of the main moves of her text then is seperating the
>> "serious" left from the "cuckoo" left (Proyect/Dubain) in order to
>> reconstruct the "reasonable" center..  
>
>Louis: What the heck are you talking about? Who is the she you are
>referring to? Caroll Cox has a weewee just like me. Also he doesn't think
>I am "cuckoo". He holds me in high regard, even if I do think I am cuckoo
>myself.

More fool him. And you don't really think you're a cuckoo. Like most 
basically stupid people you have an inordinately high -- and quite unfounded 
-- regard for yourself. But from time to time, you indulge in unprompted, 
self-destructive remarks like these in the fond belief that this sort of 
behaviour will serve as an earnest of your inner sincerity. Such cunning.

>> the  rear guard of this group--Malecki--is now also attempting to 
>> "reinvent"  history by his feigned amnesia ["perhaps I have missed
>> something" he bursts out]--he, like them, caught up in the nightmare of
>> history just wants to "go back" (renew and reinvent) and in doing so start
>> all over again contradiction-free! 

>Louis: Malecki "missed something" because he is an extraordinarily stupid
>human being who, lacking in natural endowments, often confuses names,
>places, dates, etc. I expect that you folks and he will eventually find
>each other locked in a warm embrace because he also likes the sounds of
>the words "vanguard" and "proletarian" rolling off his tongue. I do expect
>him to have a little trouble with "problematize" however.


Bob Malecki may have his faults, as who does not, eh, Louie? But stupidity 
is not one of them. Nor is political myopia. Or mendacity. Or 
pseudo-humility. So his English isn't up to your (or Carroll's) rigorous 
standards. But then you haven't lived in an isolated region of a foreign 
country for thirty odd years, cut off from your own culture and surrounded 
only by people (including members of your own family) who speak a different 
language -- a language, moreover, which you've had to learn informally as an 
adult. 

Since you have not, on your own admission, read any of his posts for the 
last eighteen months, you're not in a position to comment on what he may or 
may not have written. But then that's never stopped you from shooting your 
mouth off. Has it? In terms of clarity of political direction and grasp of 
political issues, not to mention moral principle, Bob Malecki's posts are 
light years ahead of yours.

>> insecurity in the presence of ideas.  It is a symptom of this
>> embarrassment and the intellectual insecurity and impatience with complex
>> thinking that Louis Proyect declares: "do the rest of us a favor and tell
>> us exactly what you have to offer." 

>The sorts of questions I am interested in are:
>
>1) Lenin in context

*Whose* context, Louie?

>2) The Nicaraguan and Cuban revolutions

What sort of revolutions would these be?

>3) Computers and Socialism

What about Socialism?

>4) The Red-Green synthesis

Synthesis?

>5) Market socialism and participatory planning as utopian socialisms

Thus far, your contributions in this field have been somewhat unscintillating.

>6) Analytical Marxism vs classical Marxism

I don't know why you bother.

>7) The nature of fascism and its new forms

If you could bring yourself to engage in civilised discourse with Hugh, Bob 
M., Dave, Zeynep, Utica and many others, you might find them surprisingly 
interesting on the subject. Who know, you might even learn something? After 
all, on a subject like this, they (Dave and Hugh) would be obliged to 
restrain their natural instincts to call for revolutions every second 
paragraph. What's more, unlike some disgraceful people on this list, they DO 
do their homework.

>8) Humanitarian military interventions

You forgot Texas ranching.

Stuart Sheild



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