From bsiebert@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Thu Sep 19 20:10:23 1996 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:10:11 -0500 To: matfem@csf.colorado.edu From: Barbara Siebert Subject: Re: help I am in the same predicament as Oscar. I have tried to sign off at least three times, but can't seem to get it right. Is there anyone out there on matfem who can help me? At 08:16 PM 6/10/96 -0600, you wrote: > > I am so sory bothering the entire list on this issue but i have been >receiving messages from you even after i signed off last year. > I hope some one out there can help me signing off. > Thank You. > > Oscar Isaac Barajas Velasco > ri091162@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx > > From dhorne@direct.ca Fri Sep 20 06:48:59 1996 To: matfem@csf.colorado.edu From: david horne Subject: Re: help Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 05:48:40 -0700 At 09:10 PM 9/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >I am in the same predicament as Oscar. I have tried to sign off at least >three times, but can't seem to get it right. Is there anyone out there on >matfem who can help me? > > > > > >At 08:16 PM 6/10/96 -0600, you wrote: >> >> I am so sory bothering the entire list on this issue but i have been >>receiving messages from you even after i signed off last year. >> I hope some one out there can help me signing off. >> Thank You. >> >> Oscar Isaac Barajas Velasco >> ri091162@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx >> >> > >Well, maybe you've already tried this but here goes anyway. Send a message to : listproc@csf.colorado.edu Leave the subject line blank In the body of the message write: signoff MATFEM OR unsubscibe MATFEM Hope this works for you. David H. > From dhorne@direct.ca Fri Sep 20 08:10:29 1996 To: matfem@csf.colorado.edu From: david horne Subject: Re: help Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:10:17 -0700 At 05:48 AM 9/20/96 -0700, you wrote: >At 09:10 PM 9/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >>I am in the same predicament as Oscar. I have tried to sign off at least >>three times, but can't seem to get it right. Is there anyone out there on >>matfem who can help me? >> >> >> >> >> >>At 08:16 PM 6/10/96 -0600, you wrote: >>> >>> I am so sory bothering the entire list on this issue but i have been >>>receiving messages from you even after i signed off last year. >>> I hope some one out there can help me signing off. >>> Thank You. >>> >>> Oscar Isaac Barajas Velasco >>> ri091162@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx >>> >>> >> >>Well, maybe you've already tried this but here goes anyway. > >Send a message to : listproc@csf.colorado.edu > >Leave the subject line blank > >In the body of the message write: signoff MATFEM OR unsubscibe MATFEM > >Hope this works for you. > >David H. >> > >Great, now I can't even spell! Thats unsubscribe MATFEM David again > From mva472@merle.acns.nwu.edu Fri Sep 20 15:34:34 1996 From: mva472@merle.acns.nwu.edu (UNLISTED) Subject: Multi-Disciplinary Feminist Graduate Student Conference (fwd) To: MATFEM@csf.colorado.edu Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:34:23 -0500 (CDT) Forwarded message: Subject: Multi-Disciplinary Feminist Graduate Student Conference (fwd) To: mva472@merle.acns.nwu.edu (UNLISTED) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:33:51 -0500 (CDT) Forwarded message: Subject: Multi-Disciplinary Feminist Graduate Student Conference (fwd) To: mva472@merle.acns.nwu.edu (UNLISTED) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:58:41 -0500 (CDT) Call For Participants/Registration 11th Annual Midwest/Mid-Atlantic Feminist Graduate Student Conference FEMINIST CHALLENGES: THEORIES, PRACTICE, AND POLITICS FEBRUARY 14 - 16, 1997 LOYOLA UNIVERSITY, CHICAGO KEYNOTE SPEAKER: Verta Taylor, Associate Professor, Ohio State University Author of "Rock-a-bye Baby: Feminism, Self-Help, and Post-Partum Depression." ABOUT THE CONFERENCE: Recognizing the diversity of thought and people within feminist movements has historically been a challenge. As feminism continues to be defined, refined, and developed, we must connect our theories with our practice, our practice with our politics. The questioning of common assumptions, and challenges of the future are the foci of this year's multidisciplinary conference. PROPOSAL INFORMATION: PROPOSAL DEADLINE: NOVEMBER 15, 1996 Mail 2 copies of one-page abstracts, panel proposal, or descriptions of performance/art work with a separate cover sheet listing author name(s), address, phone number, e-mail, and registration fee to: Eden Opsahl Dept. of Psychology (m/c 285) Behavioral Science Bldg. 1007 W. Harrison St. Chicago, IL 60607 REGISTRATION INFORMATION: REGISTRATION DEADLINE: JANUARY 3, 1997 To register, send $20 check with name, address, phone/e-mail to proposal address above. An hors-d'oeuvres reception will follow keynote address Saturday evening. To register for the reception, include $15 with your initial registration to indicate your attendance. QUESTIONS? Contact us via e-mail: Eden Opsahl: Opsahl@tigger.cc.uic.edu Caryn Aviv: caviv@luc.edu Sponsored by: Women's Studies at University of Illinois at Chicago Gannon Center for Women and Leadership Loyola University, Chicago and Northern Illinois University From chgr28@ccsun.strath.ac.uk Mon Sep 23 18:44:47 1996 by lismore.cc.strath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 0.54 #2) From: "m.ang-lygate" Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: cookies To: MLH60@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:44:21 +0100 (BST) matfem@csf.colorado.edu, ckkdsnn@ioe.ac.uk, fa1938@ccug.wlv.ac.uk, s.ahmed@lancaster.ac.uk, e.n.mofokeng@bradford.ac.uk, ctisoc@stir.ac.uk, klein@deakin.edu.au In-Reply-To: <960923140001_1143475749@emout17.mail.aol.com> from "MLH60@aol.com" at Sep 23, 96 02:00:01 pm > > Forwarded to me from friend Rohn-- who knows where it originated? > > > True or not, here's a cookie receipe. I haven't made them yet, so can't say > if they are good or not. > > -------------------- > forwards deleted > --------------------------- > > > This is a true story that was forwarded to me. Read it and learn. > Bake the cookies and enjoy them and then forward this to all you know! > > > My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe > in Dallas & decided to have a small dessert. Because both of us are > such cookie lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus Cookie". It > was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe and the > waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not." Well, I said, > would you let me buy the recipe? With a cute smile, she said, "Yes." > I asked how much, and she responded, "Only two fifty, it's a great > deal!" I said with approval, just add it to my tab. Thirty days > later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and it was > $285.00. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for > two salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom > of the statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00." That's > outrageous!! I called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the > waitress said it was "two-fifty," which clearly does not mean "two > hundred and fifty dollars" by any *POSSIBLE* interpretation of the > phrase. Nieman-Marcus refused to budge. They would not refund my > money, because according to them, "What the waitress told you is not > our problem. You have already seen the recipe - we absolutely will > not refund your money at this point." I explained to her the criminal > statutes which govern fraud in Texas, I threatened to refer them to > the Better Business Bureau and the State's Attorney General for > engaging in fraud. I was basically told, "Do what you want, we don't > give a crap, and we're not refunding your money." I waited, thinking > of how I could get even, or even try and get any of my money back. I > just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going to have > $250.00 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that > every cookie lover in the United States with an e-mail account has a > $250.00 cookie recipe from Neiman-Marcus... for free. She replied, "I > wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, you should have thought of > that before you ripped me off, and slammed down the phone on her. > > > So, here it is!!! Please, please, please pass it on to everyone > you can possibly think of. I paid $250 dollars for this... I don't > want Nieman-Marcus to *ever* get another penny off of this recipe.... > > > (Recipe may be halved.): > > > 2 cups butter > 4 cups flour > 2 tsp. soda > 2 cups sugar > 5 cups blended oatmeal** > 24 oz. chocolate chips > 2 cups brown sugar > 1 tsp. salt > 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) > 4 eggs > 2 tsp. baking powder > 3 cups chopped nuts (your choice) > 2 tsp. vanilla > ** Measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder. > > > Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla; mix together > with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate > chips, Hershey Bar and nuts. Roll into balls and place two inches > apart on a cookie sheet. Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes > 112 cookies. > > > Have fun!!! This is *not* a joke --- this is a true story.. Ride > free, citizen! > > > --------------------- > Forwarded message: > From: us993rxr@ibmmail.com (Rich, Rohn - Chicago 02555 - BC5) > To: elshaw@ihha.org, leonard@ihha.org, myoung@bcm.tmc.edu, rivers@ihha.org, > JJBowen@aol.com, JRICKERT@us.oracle.com, MLH60@aol.com > Date: 96-09-23 13:30:13 EDT > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > True or not, here's a cookie receipe. I haven't made them yet, so can't say > if they are good or not. > > -------------------- > forwards deleted > --------------------------- > > > This is a true story that was forwarded to me. Read it and learn. > Bake the cookies and enjoy them and then forward this to all you know! > > > My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe > in Dallas & decided to have a small dessert. Because both of us are > such cookie lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus Cookie". It > was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe and the > waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not." Well, I said, > would you let me buy the recipe? With a cute smile, she said, "Yes." > I asked how much, and she responded, "Only two fifty, it's a great > deal!" I said with approval, just add it to my tab. Thirty days > later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and it was > $285.00. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for > two salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom > of the statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00." That's > outrageous!! I called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the > waitress said it was "two-fifty," which clearly does not mean "two > hundred and fifty dollars" by any *POSSIBLE* interpretation of the > phrase. Nieman-Marcus refused to budge. They would not refund my > money, because according to them, "What the waitress told you is not > our problem. You have already seen the recipe - we absolutely will > not refund your money at this point." I explained to her the criminal > statutes which govern fraud in Texas, I threatened to refer them to > the Better Business Bureau and the State's Attorney General for > engaging in fraud. I was basically told, "Do what you want, we don't > give a crap, and we're not refunding your money." I waited, thinking > of how I could get even, or even try and get any of my money back. I > just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going to have > $250.00 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that > every cookie lover in the United States with an e-mail account has a > $250.00 cookie recipe from Neiman-Marcus... for free. She replied, "I > wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, you should have thought of > that before you ripped me off, and slammed down the phone on her. > > > So, here it is!!! Please, please, please pass it on to everyone > you can possibly think of. I paid $250 dollars for this... I don't > want Nieman-Marcus to *ever* get another penny off of this recipe.... > > > (Recipe may be halved.): > > > 2 cups butter > 4 cups flour > 2 tsp. soda > 2 cups sugar > 5 cups blended oatmeal** > 24 oz. chocolate chips > 2 cups brown sugar > 1 tsp. salt > 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) > 4 eggs > 2 tsp. baking powder > 3 cups chopped nuts (your choice) > 2 tsp. vanilla > ** Measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder. > > > Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla; mix together > with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate > chips, Hershey Bar and nuts. Roll into balls and place two inches > apart on a cookie sheet. Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes > 112 cookies. > > > Have fun!!! This is *not* a joke --- this is a true story.. Ride > free, citizen! > > From kekula@aloha.net Mon Sep 23 19:46:01 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:42:25 -1000 (HST) To: matfem@csf.colorado.edu From: kekula@aloha.net (Kekula Bray-Crawford) Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: cookies Great new recIpie for the holidays... cookie sale fund raisers - how about a recIpie fund raiser? Thanks from Hawaii From jnoble@YorkU.CA Mon Sep 23 21:05:33 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:05:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Noble To: MATERIALIST FEMINISM Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: cookies In-Reply-To: i hate to be a party-pooper but this cookie recipe, um, virus-like post, is a cyber-urban myth. a canadian news program did a story on this myth, interviewing cyber-junkies, the store involved, etc etc etc and it turns out none of it happened. fascinating though the kind of currency it has. how are the cookies?? jnoble From kekula@aloha.net Mon Sep 23 21:13:57 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:10:20 -1000 (HST) To: matfem@csf.colorado.edu From: kekula@aloha.net (Kekula Bray-Crawford) Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: cookies whoops... thanks Jean - stop that cookie sale! From garvey@panix.com Sun Sep 29 08:27:51 1996 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:27:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Ellen Garvey Reply-To: Ellen Garvey To: MATERIALIST FEMINISM Subject: interpreting cookies The cookie story is a variation on the Red Velvet Cake urban legend discussed in Jan Harold Brunvand's _The Vanishing Hitchhiker_ (Norton, 1981). There too, the outrageously expensive recipe is associated with a restaurant with a national reputation. Outrage fuels circulation of the recipe, so that that version too is still making the rounds: I saw a stack of Red Velvet Cake recipes with the story xeroxed at a health club last year. I don't have Brunvand's book at hand, and don't recall much of his interpretation of this legend -- something about the sense of outrage at expensive restaurants, and maybe guilt at having spent money in them oneself, probably, I think. But I'm curious about this from a feminist point of view. The story positions baking cookies and passing on a recipe as an act of revenge, as a rebellion against the strictures of a corporation, and advocates a kind of organizing about it. It's a kind of organizing that can't offend anyone. One might say it's a test of one's broadcasting system: if the cookie recipe can get this far, then what about a real call to action? But somehow this gets in where other calls don't. (I notice that none of us, myself included, thought to post anything here about the recent D&X abortion vote.) There's a fine book by Patricia Turner about urban legends in the African American community called _I Heard It Through the Grapevine_ that makes a more political interpretation of these rumors than Brunvand does. I wonder if anyone on the list has further thoughts about the feminist political dimensions of the cookie recipe and other legends. --Ellen Garvey English Department Jersey City State College