From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Feb 10 11:24:29 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: Mobilize against US supported war in Mexico (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:29:52 -0600 (CST) Status: RO Forwarded message: > From root Fri Feb 10 10:44:10 1995 > Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:40:26 -0600 (CST) > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:40:26 -0600 (CST) > From: Rust Gilbert > Subject: Mobilize against US supported war in Mexico > To: nwrc@wwa.com > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Resent-Message-Id: <"o2ThQ1.0.4w1.ZUvEl"@sashimi.wwa.com> > Resent-From: nwrc@wwa.com > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/21 > X-Loop: nwrc@wwa.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: nwrc-request@wwa.com > > From: National Commission for Democracy in Mexico > Subject: Mobilize against US supported war in Mexico > > interjection: todays NYmas la radio comercial festina la accion de > Zedillo. Empiezan a ligar a multiples personas en el > EZLN. Por supuesto al obispo de San Cristobal, Samuel > Ruiz; a Manuel Camacho Solis, ex regente de la ciudad > de Mexico, conocido porque se revelo cuando no fue > nominado como candidato a la presidencia y a Rosario > Ibarra, ex candidata a la presidencia de la Republica > por la oposicion y hoy miembra de la presidencia > colectiva de la Convencion Nacional Democratica. > Ojo: el informe del presidente de la Republica > se conocio poco antes de las 18 horas -local Mexico- y > por la TV y la radio. Se retrasmite desde esa hora > constantemente. > > 11:28 PM Feb 9, 1995 > > Reporte del Centro de Derechos Humanos Fray Bartolome > > A las 22 horas el Centro de Derechos Humanos Fray > Bartolome de las Casas en San Cristobal de las Casas > que encabeza el obispo Samuel Ruiz Garcia, informo que > el ejercito tomo la cabecera municipal de Larrainzar; > un numeroso contingente militar se dirigia al municipio > de Simojovel. Estas acciones dijo este centro, rompen > drasticamente el proceso de dialogo iniciado y aleja la > solucion politica del conflicto pudiendose dar un > reinicio de las hostilidades. Cree este centro de > derechos humanos que estas medidas mas que garantizar > la seguridad de la poblacion chiapaneca pueden generar > una nueva ola de violencia fraticida contra lapoblacion > civil, especialmente la indigena y campesina. Hizo un > urgente llamado al presidente Ernesto Zedillo para que > instruya a las autoridades competentes el sobreseimento > del proceso y las ordenes de aprehension giradas de tal > modo que se abran de nuevo las vias del dialogo para la > solucion del conflicto. > Mientras tanto la Comision Nacional de > Intermediacion, que tambien preside el obispo Samuel > Ruiz, dijo que la declaracion emitida esta tarde por el > presidente de la Republica, junto a la dinamica propia > de los acontecimientos internacionales y la activacion > de conflictos locales y regionales, pueden trastocar > seriamente las posibilidades inmediatas del proceso de > paz, por ello la CONAI pidio a las partes que > reflexionen sobre meritos presentados por la misma en > las primeras horas del dia de hoy para avanzar en los > acuerdos de las condiciones de una tregua estable y que > escuchen la voz de la sociedad civil que esta > comprometida en las tareas esperanzadoras de ver a > nuestra patria por la senda de mas justicia, mas > democracia, mas participacion. > La CONAI hizo un llamado a todas las fuerzas > sociales, politicas, locales y nacionales, genuinamente > convencidas en evitar la guerra y la construccion de > una paz con justicia y dignidad a promover y activar > todas aquellas iniciativas de participacion que > faciliten en los hechos las condiciones que > alejen el peligro de la guerra y acerquen de nueva > cuenta los medios de la comunicacion y de la > negociacion politica como los causes para dirimir y > resolver este grave conflicto. > Por otra parte desde el municipio de Las > Margaritas se informa que el EZLN declaro esta noche el > estado de Alerta Roja y empezo a colocar trampas de > montana y a minar los caminos de acceso ante la > eventual entrada del Ejercito Federal a su territorio, > informo el capitan primero del EZLN, Lucio. Indico en > entrevista realizada en el poblado Nuevo Momon que > decidieron decretar su quinta alerta roja, debido ante > la gravedad que existe ante la captura de algunos > comandantes del EZLN. Dijo desconocer si los detenidos > con las armas en Veracruz y en el Distrito Federal > -capital del pais- participan en el EZLN "nosotros > -dijo- no hemos movilizado nuestras tropas desde el > pasado 19 de diciembre, todos los comandantes estan en > sus posiciones ". > En tanto en el municipio de San Andres Larrainzar > unos 600 militares provistos con tanquetas y carros > blindados arrivaron a este poblado despues del mensaje > de Zedillo, donde se mantienen pertrechados. > > COMUNICADO DE AMADO AVENDANO DEL GOBIERNO DE > TRANSICION EN REBELDIA DEL ESTADO DE CHIAPAS. SE > CONOCIO DESPUES DE LAS 22 HORAS A TRAVES DEL RADIO. > > El gobierno federal ha decidido el dia de hoy romper > con el proceso de dialogo con el EZLN. La instruccion > girada a la Procuraduria General de la Republica > quienes con apoyo del Ejercito Federal cumpliran por lo > menos cinco ordenes de aprehension y reforzaran en > Chiapas los patrullajes militares, significa que se > avanzara sobre las posiciones zapatistas, rompiendo con > las condiciones del cese al fuego y agrega que las > acciones ordenadas por Ernesto Zedillo amenazan a todos > los mexicanos que actuamos por la via civil y pacifica. > Una vez mas la posibilidad de detener la guerra esta en > la movilizacion de la sociedad civil en mexico a quien > junto con los pueblos del mundo llama a manifestarse > por todos los medios para detener las acciones belicas > ordenadas por el gobierno de la Republica Mexicana. > > > OJO OJO OJO: Fuerzas democraticas y el Partido de > Revolucion Democratica estan citando a una movilizacion > el proximo sabado 11 de febrero. El llamado es a todas > las organizaciones sociales, civiles y politicas del > pais para detener el proceso de la inminente > reanudacion de las hostilidades en Chiapas. La consigna > es obligar a las autoridades gubernamentales a reanudar > el dialogo. > > 9 de febrero de 1995 > 22:30 > > > BOLETIN DE PRENSA > Centro de Derechos Humanos Fray Bartolome de las Casas > y CONPAZ > > > A PARTIR DEL ANUNCIO HECHO POR EL PRESIDENTE DE LA > REPUBLICA EN EL SENTIDO DE EJECUTAR ORDENES DE > APREHENSION GIRADAS EN CONTRA DE SUPUESTOS DIRIGENTES > DEL EZLN, SE HA INICIADO UN OPERATIVO DE VIGILANCIA Y > HOSTIGAMIENTO A LOS LOCALES SEDES DEL CENTRO DE > DERECHOS HUMANOS FRAY BARTOLOME DE LAS CASAS Y DE LA > COORDINACION DE ORGANISMOS NO GUBERNAMENTALES POR LA > PAZ (CONPAZ), ESTE ULTIMO LOCAL SE ENCUENTRA > PRACTICMANETE SITIADO POR AL MENOS 12 > INDIVIDUOS APARENTEMENTE ELEMENTOS DE LA POLICIA > JUDICIAL. > > TANTO EL CENTRO DE DERECHOS HUMANOS FRAY BARTOLOME DE > LAS CASAS, COMO CONPAZ HACEN RESPONSABLE TANTO A LAS > AUTORIDADES DE LA PROCURADURIA DE JUSTICIA DEL ESTADO, > COMO A LOS INTEGRANTES DE LA LLAMADA INTELIGENCIA > MILITAR DE LA INTEGRIDAD FISICA Y PSICOLOGICA DE LAS > PERSONAS QUE EN ESTOS DIFICILES MOMENTOS TRABAJAN EN EL > MONITOREO DE LA SITUACION DE EMERGENCIA QUE SE HA > DESATADO DESPUES DEL ANUNCIO PRESIDENCIAL. > > > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Feb 10 11:25:23 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: Mobilize Now to Stop the Mexican Government! (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:30:49 -0600 (CST) Status: RO Forwarded message: > From root Fri Feb 10 02:27:23 1995 > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 00:11:10 -0800 > Reply-To: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > Sender: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > From: Jason Wehling > Subject: Mobilize Now to Stop the Mexican Government! (fwd) > Comments: To: left-l@cmsa.berkeley.edu, anarchy-list@cwi.nl, 1-union@lever.com > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 23:12:10 -0600 (CST) > From: Harry M. Cleaver > To: chiapas-l@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx > Cc: mexico94@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx, reg.mexico@igc.apc.org, > mexico-l@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx > Subject: Mobilize Now to Stop the Mexican Government! > > Action Alert! > > At 6 o'clock this evening, Mexican President Zedillo went on television > and announced that the government had discovered EZLN arms caches in > Veracruz City and Mexico City. He identified Subcommandante Marcos as > "Rafael Santiago Guillen Vicente". He proceeded to brand the EZLN > "terrorists" and announced that he had ordered to Mexican Army to > "capture" them, i.e., to attack. Zedillo said the army has been ordered > to "search" for them "in all national territory". This seems a code for > attacking Zapatista territory in Chiapas. > > This appears to be the attack that we have all feared was coming. The > velvet glove of peaceful negotiations has been cast off and the mailed fist > of the Mexican state has once more been bared. Zedillo's branding of the EZLN > as "terrorists" is a return to the language used by Salinas a year ago in > his first reactions to the uprising. > > The only thing that stopped the military then, and the only thing > that will stop it now is massive mobilization against the government's actions. > > Therefore, all who have mobilized in solidarity with the struggle for > democracy in Mexico should organize immediate action. If we can, once again, > create an international wave of protest against the Mexican state's actions > perhaps we can bring this new offensive to a stop. If we do not so > organize we will share responsibility for the murders and tortures the > Mexican army and police have probably already begun. > > > ====================================== > Harry Cleaver > Department of Economics > University of Texas at Austin > Austin, Texas 78712-1173 > USA > > Phone Numbers: (hm) (512) 442-5036 > (off) (512) 471-3211 > Fax: (512) 471-3510 > E-mail: hmcleave@mundo.eco.utexas.edu > ====================================== > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Feb 10 11:41:45 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: Statement by Emma Lozano on crackdown on EZLN Press Conf. at Mexican Consulate (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:47:11 -0600 (CST) Status: RO Forwarded message: > From root Fri Feb 10 12:43:09 1995 > Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:41:27 -0600 > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:41:27 -0600 > Message-Id: <199502101841.MAA05708@kitten.mcs.com> > X-Sender: rgilbert@popmail.mcs.com > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > To: nwrc@wwa.com > From: rgilbert@mcs.net (Rust Gilbert) > Subject: Statement by Emma Lozano on crackdown on EZLN Press Conf. at Mexican Consulate > Resent-Message-Id: <"dDDX01.0.F76.zFxEl"@sashimi.wwa.com> > Resent-From: nwrc@wwa.com > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/22 > X-Loop: nwrc@wwa.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: nwrc-request@wwa.com > > (faxed to NWRC by Sin Fronteras) > To:All Media > From:National Commission for Democracy in Mexico, Sin Fronteras > and other Mexican Organizations in Chicago > contact: EMMA LoZANO > 772~8383 > > PRESS CONFERENCE > * FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 10TH > 12:30 P.M. > - MEXICAN CONSULATE > 300 N. MICHIGAN > > MEXICANS IN THE U.S. CONDEMN THE U.S. SPONSORED > WAR INITIATED TODAY BY THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT > IN CHIAPAS. > > Spokesperson for the National Commission for Democracy in Menco, > USA, the only group authorized to speak for the EZLN in the United States, > will give latest update on the war iniated by the Zedillo government > against the EZLN and itS supporters in Mexico. Comments will also be made as > the commission charges that the military attack on the EZLN, breaking off > negotiations was part of the agreement for the U.S. multi-billion dollar > bailout. > > > > -STATEMENT By EMMA LOZANO, CHICAGO REPRESENTATIVE Of > > The NATIONal COMMISSION FOR DEMOCRACY IN MEXICO, > > * Feb 10,1995 > > > -We are here to condemn the action taken by the Zedillo > government yesterday and today. President Zedillo has destroyed to peaceful > proceSs of negotiations tha the people of Mexico have demanded. In the > historic style of the PRI, Zedillo has issued wild unsubstantiated charges, > focused on attacks on individuals and ordered a murderous, repressive, > genocidal military action to commence in Chiapas. As we speak, Mexican > regular army in chiapas - almost 2/3's of the Mexican army is in Chiapas - > have begun rounding up EZLN supporters and democracy advocates, surrounding > even the house of the Bishop who had been charged with mediating peaceful > negotiations. We are on the brink -perhaps unalterably past the brink - of > full scale war in Chiapas > > We, Mexicans and other progressive people in the United > States, further strongly condeftin the role of the U.S. government and > wall street. There is compelling evidence that the military solution which > the Zedillo government is following - forsaking the road of peaceful > negotiations - was part of the deal struck for the multi-billion dollar > bail~out organized by the Clinton administration . Wall street has for some > time been demanding the military suppression of the movement for democracy > in Chiapas. They have gotten their way, paid for by the blood of the > Mexican and indigenous people. The blood is on President Clinton's hands. > > > Just as Clinton bypassed the U.S. Congress to put together the bail-out, > Zedillo bypassed debate in the Mexican congress. Only two days ago, > Zedillo said he would bring the issue to the Mexican Congress. He did not. > > > He acted to start genocidal war without consultation except for his > consultation with U.S. Government and the representatives of Wall > Street. > > We must remember the reason the EZLN has taken the actions it has taken > over the last year and the diligence it has used seek a peaceful solution. > The demands for Democracy. Liberty, Justice reflect the most heartfelt > feelings of the majority of people in Mexico. > > > > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From MGWENG01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Fri Feb 10 21:35:36 MST 1995 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:40:43 EST From: "Morton G. Wenger, Dept. of Sociology" Subject: Does a dog return to its own vomit? The leopard change his spots? To: Status: RO University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292 USA PHONE: (502) 852-6836 FAX: (502) 852-0099 Does anyone have any good information, or even rumor or hearsay, regarding US military and/or intelligence activity in Chiapas. If there is none (and this would amaze me), I would find that interesting also. INTERNET: MGWENG01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Fri Feb 10 22:28:35 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: mexico 4 (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 23:34:03 -0600 (CST) Status: RO Forwarded message: > From root Fri Feb 10 22:09:41 1995 > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:05:21 -0800 > Reply-To: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > Sender: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > From: Nathan Newman > Subject: mexico 4 (fwd) > Comments: To: Left List- LEFT-L , > "CoC-L: CoCdiscuss list" > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:36:33 -0800 > From: Center for Changes > Subject: mexico 4 > > ** Topic: EMERGENCY RESPONSE ALERT ** > ** Written 4:01 PM Feb 10, 1995 by ern in cdp:reg.mexico ** > > Below is a letter that Grassroots International is sending through > the Emergency Response Network to respond to the situation in > Mexico. Other organizations and individuals are encouraged to send > similar messages (via phone or fax). Additional targets in the > U.S. are: > > Mexican Consulate: > tel: 202-736-1000 > fax: 202-797-8458 > > Mexican Embassy: > (Ambassador Jesus Silva Herzog) > tel: 202-728-1690 > fax: 202-728-1698 > > Commercial Attache: > fax: 202-728-1712 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Presidente Ernesto Zedillo > Los Pinos > Mexico City > > February 10, 1995 > > Dear President Zedillo: > > I am very alarmed at the recent news that the Mexican > government has ordered army troops and federal police > agents into the territory held by the EZLN, which includes > more than 70,000 largely indigenous civilians, in order to > arrest alleged leaders of the Zapatista movement. > > I view this as an indication that the government of Mexico > has decided that war and not peaceful negotiation is the > way to end the conflict in Chiapas and divert attention > from the current economic crisis. This strategy will only > result in the shedding of blood by many innocent people > and will greatly exacerbate the tension in Chiapas and in > the rest of Mexico. I am particularly concerned about the > treatment and condition of the 23 people already arrested. > > In the name of peace, I ask the following: > > 1. Immediate withdrawal of the army, federal police agents > and special forces from Zapatista-held areas; > > 2. A renewed government commitment to the negotiation > process; > > 3. Respect for the human rights of the civilian population, > both in Chiapas and throughout Mexico; > > 4. Respect for the organizational integrity of the non- > > governmental, social, and political organizations in > Chiapas, particularly the Diocese of San Cristobal de las > Casas, the Comision Nacional de Intermediacion, and > CONPAZ, whose offices I understand Mexican security > forces raided and ransacked today; > > 5. The public presentation of all prisoners, in conformity > with Mexican law, to assure they are not being mistreated; > > 6. Strict adherence to the provisions of the Geneva > Convention. > > I view your new policy for the Zapatista conflict with great > alarm and urge you to reconsider the military action you > are initiating. > > Sincerely, > President Zedillo's fax numbers are: 011-525-271-1764 and 011-525-515-4783 > ** End of text from cdp:reg.mexico ** > > -- Transfer complete, hit or to continue -- > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Sun Feb 12 09:40:16 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: AVENDANO TO US PEOPLE:WAR HAS BEGUN (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 10:45:47 -0600 (CST) Status: RO Forwarded message: > From root Sat Feb 11 22:53:44 1995 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 20:50:16 -0800 > Reply-To: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > Sender: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > From: Nathan Newman > Subject: AVENDANO TO US PEOPLE:WAR HAS BEGUN (fwd) > Comments: To: LEFTNEWS List , > ACTIV-L , > Left List- LEFT-L , > "CoC-L: CoCdiscuss list" > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 07:35:47 -0800 > From: AFSC/Immigration Law Enforcement > To: chiapas-l@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx > Cc: moonlight@igc.apc.org > Subject: AVENDANO TO US PEOPLE:WAR HAS BEGUN > > TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT IN REBELLION STATE OF CHIAPAS > COUNCIL OF THE GOVERNMENT > > > San Cristobal de las Casas, 10 of February, 1995 > > To the American People > Brothers, Sisters: > > The arrogant power that reigns in Mexico, from the Government > Palace, has called war amongst ourselves, the people of Mexico. > Federal troops have entered zapatista territory. Persons from this > country have already fallen. The war has begun once more. > > Men of money and power are no longer tolerant of the YA BASTA of > the Ejercito Zapatista de Liberacion Nacional(the Zapatista > National Liberation Army, of the indigenous and > campesinos(peasants), of those without voice and without faces. > > They are trampling all civil and peaceful action of the people of > Chiapas and Mexico to construct a Peace with Justice and Dignity. > > The mass media throw lies at the Mexican population. They try to > muddy all the is good and all that is beautiful. Dozens of > military vehicles are in the jungle and other points of Chiapas > now, blinded helicopters, troops; fearful informers signal out > persons in the civil population for public denouncement; police > have arrested and detained many in different parts of the nation. > > The ones responsible for the bankruptcy of the nation, those who > support the guardias blancas(private armies of the landowners and > ranchers), those who have money to pay for hired guns, those who > support the one-party government the PRI, calculate they can > liquidate 500 years of indigenous and popular resistance. > > Is it too much to ask for Justice, Democracy and Liberty? Do we > commit a crime for fighting for a roof, land, health, education, > employment, culture, the right to information, independence and > peace? > > Today lead falls in our hearts. From this sorrow that overflows > every hour, we receive your news and we do not feel alone. We know > we count we the best men and women of the American people, who will > know how to be with us and will know how to be brave to impede > fratricide in our nation. There is urgent need for international > observers that testify to the events we denounce. That you promote > more united and massive movilizations to stop this horror of war. > > May we awaken the peoples of the world to Life, for Peace with > Justice and Dignity. > > Amado Avendano Fiqueroa > Gobernor > > For the Council of Government > > Aide Rojas Gabriel Ramirez > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From mikeg@nywork2.undp.org Sun Feb 12 21:59:21 MST 1995 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 00:13:18 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Gurstein Subject: Forwarded mail.... To: progressive sociologists Status: RO ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 21:58:23 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin W Mullet To: cybermind@jefferson.village.virginia.edu www@kuht.uh.edu, postmaster@apnews.com, postmaster@latimes.com Subject: I just received this recent posting from an Internet E-Mail list regarding a possible recent development in Chiapas that might not be known much outside Chipas and the Internet because of a current news blackout. I'm Cc-ing this back to the cybermind list so that anyone else who is inclined to pass this on to news organizations will know some of the places it's already gone and we can cut down on redundant postings. As have already seen from the headers above, this text is also going to The Houston Chronicle, The Houston Press, The (Houston) Public News, KUHT-TV (Houston), Associated Press and the LA Times. >Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU) by moe.rice.edu (AA02863); Sun, 12 Feb 95 21:12:11 CST >Received: from jefferson.village.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu > id aa12925; 12 Feb 95 22:10 EST >Received: by jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU (5.67a8/1.34) >Received: from mercury.unt.edu by jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU (5.67a8/1.34) > (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 12 Feb 1995 20:03:41 -0600 >Received: (from dbreshrs@localhost) by jove.acs.unt.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA07492; Sun, 12 Feb 1995 19:59:39 -0600 >Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 19:59:35 -0600 (CST) >From: David Franklin Breshears >To: CYBERMIND >Cc: multiple recipients of list CYBERMIND >Subject: Forwarded mail.... (fwd) >Message-Id: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Sender: owner-cybermind@jefferson.village.virginia.edu >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: cybermind@jefferson.village.virginia.edu > >ok. let's see what kind of power this web can generate. please forward >- anyone, anywhere, asap. > >hopeful, > >david breshears >dept of communication studies >u of north texas > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 17:22:47 -0600 >From: Arthur J. Barron >Subject: Forwarded mail.... (fwd) > >A friend forwarded this to me. It is self explanatory why I passed it on. > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 17:18:50 -0600 >From: brofka marsha >To: Cynthia Austin , > TALLCRYD , > "Beth A. Snow" , > michael groen , > "Arthur J. Barron" >Subject: Forwarded mail.... > >>We've just recevied an emergency call from friends in Mexico. They tell us >>that the Mexican army has surrounded the city of San Cristobal in Chiapas, >>and that the hospital in the nearby city of Comitan is flooded with >>casualities. The press is being excluded from the area. The people being >>attacked are the Myan Indians, and other poor farmers, who've been denied >>land and food since the conquest. >> >>They've asked that we try to get word about this out via email. While we >>have no further information beyond this one call I ask you to pass this >>message on, or tell anyone you think relevant via any means so that this >>does not occur in silence. >> >>============================ >>Chuck Goodwin >>Anthropology >>University of South Carolina >>Colubmia SC 29208 >> (803) 356-6006 >> (803) 777-0259 (fax) >> >> >> >_________________________________ >Eric W. Davis >Department of Anthropology >University of Texas >Austin, Texas 78712-1086 > >ewdavis@bongo.cc.utexas.edu >http://wwwhost.cc.utexas.edu/~ewdavis/index.html > > >------------------- >WWW: "ftp://beethoven.cs.uiuc.edu/pub/gratch/home.html" > From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Sun Feb 12 22:59:44 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: March in Mexico City ("We Are All Marcos!") (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 00:05:15 -0600 (CST) Status: RO Forwarded message: > From root Sun Feb 12 16:20:19 1995 > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 14:16:29 -0800 > Reply-To: 187-L - Resisting and Organizing Against Prop 187 > <187-L@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU> > Sender: 187-L - Resisting and Organizing Against Prop 187 > <187-L@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU> > From: Nathan Newman > Subject: March in Mexico City ("We Are All Marcos!") (fwd) > Comments: To: 187resist List <187-l@cmsa.berkeley.edu>, > LEFTNEWS List , > ACTIV-L > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 11:25:08 -0600 (CST) > >From: Elliott Young (Colegio de la Frontera) > >To: chiapas-l@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx > >Subject: Marcha in Mex City > > > > > >Yesterday, Satruday, a march was held in mexico City, from the Angel to > >the Zocalo. What the Friday protest lacked in numbers and militancy, the > >Saturday march made up. Virtually all of the civic organizations were > >represented, including the CND, the organizacion de barrios, the > >Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana (UAM), CONAI, Frente Popular Francisco > >Villa, and the PRD, of course. Thousands upon thousands of people filled > >the Avendia Reforma and marched, chanting "Todos Somos Marcos", "Zapata > >Vive, La Lucha Sigue," "Se Ve, Se Nota, Zedillo es un Idiota," "La UAM No > >Es Cuartel, Es Universidad," (referring to the invasion of the University > >by soldiers), and "Duro, Duro." > > Graffiti decorated the pathway all along Reforma and Calle Madero > >leading > >up to the Zocalo. Targeted especially were the banks, expensive hotels, > >jewlery stores, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Arbys, and McDonalds, and all of > >the bus stops. The graffit read "Todos Somos Marcos," "EZLN," and "Fuera > >Capitalismo Internacional" (especially on the US fast-food franchises). > >Cornel Sanders was painted so that he looked like a masked zapatista. > >the paint covered walls and also windows so that painting over it will > >not be such an easy task. > > The march began at 4 pm and began arriving at the Zocalo by 6pm > >where a whole stage of people gave speeches. By 8 pm the enormous march > >was still entering the Zocalo, which by that time was completely filled. > >The regulars spoke, Cardenas, Porfirio Munoz ledo, Rosario Ibarra de > >Piedra, in addition to many others, including the actress Ofelia Medina. > >The speeches were even more animated than usual, with Cardenas even > >working up some emotion. Rosario related information that she had on the > >people who had been arrested. All of them, she said, had been forced to > >sign confessions under physical and psychological torture. She described > >tortures, such as electric shocks, beatings, and physical molestation of > >women. Porfirio made the point that it took the government oer a year to > >figure out that the movement was armed. Also, among the items the > >government captured, proving that the arrested were zapatistas, were > >books, videos, and posters, all of which are readily available in the > >Zocalo any day of the week. Ofelia Medina held the attention of the > >whole audience with her emotional speech in which she said that one drop > >of Indian blood is worth more than 51 billion dollars. She also asked > >the people of the US to listen and realize that their consumer life is > >bought at the expense of the blood of Indian Mexicans. We are the voice > >of those without voice, she continued, somos todos indios. > > A representative from Chiapas announced that the UAM (Marcos' > >alma mater) would now be known as La Basilica de San Marcos. A PRD > >delegate informed that on Monday there would be a motion in the Che > >Guevara auditorium at the UNAM to grant Marcos an honorary doctorate in > >filosofia y letras for his great intellectual contribution to the > >nation. He also compared marcos' qualifications to those of Alzati, the > >former sec. of education, who pretended to have a doctorate that he never > >had. So I guess he will be Dr. Subcomandante Marcos from Monday onwards. > > The rally ended at around 8:30 pm. There was a noticeable > >absence of police throughout the march. In the US, one could expect > >thousands of cops in full riot gear, ready to make arrests and prrovoke > >violence. The only police that I saw, there were of course undercover > >cops, were about 100 riot cops in front of the US embassy (very appropriate). > > On Tuesday, the CND will hold an open-air meeting to discuss > >future actions at the Angel. I will do my best to keep you posted. > > > >Ni Un Paso Atras, > >Elliott Young > >eyoung@colmex.mx > > > > > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From asx009@coventry.ac.uk Mon Feb 13 01:21:14 MST 1995 Via: uk.ac.coventry.hermes; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 08:26:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 08:27:01 +0000 From: John Selby To: left-l , "Progressive Sociologists' Network" Subject: Massacre in Chiapas (fwd) Status: RO ______________________________________________________________________________ Please Reply to: John Selby Educational Development Unit Coventry University Coventry CV1 5FB E-mail j.selby@cov.ac.uk Telephone +44 203 838149 (Direct Line) +44 203 631313 (Switchboard) Fax +44 203 838793 _____________________________________________________________________________ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 21:22:21 -0800 From: Penny Simpson To: arlist@psy.uq.oz.au, gerald_hodge@sfu.ca, halseth@unbc.edu, zaslove@sfu.ca, marianne_ignace@sfu.ca, mark_roseland@sfu.ca, pwildman@scu.edu.au, social-theory@mailbase.ac.uk, SKATZ@TrentU.ca, TBN@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU Subject: Massacre in Chiapas >We've just recevied an emergency call from friends in Mexico. They tell us >that the Mexican army has surrounded the city of San Cristobal in Chiapas, >and that the hospital in the nearby city of Comitan is flooded with >casualities. The press is being excluded from the area. The people being >attacked are the Myan Indians, and other poor farmers, who've been denied >land and food since the conquest. > >They've asked that we try to get word about this out via email. While we >have no further information beyond this one call I ask you to pass this >message on, or tell anyone you think relevant via any means so that this >does not occur in silence. > >============================ >Chuck Goodwin >Anthropology >University of South Carolina >Colubmia SC 29208 > (803) 356-6006 > (803) 777-0259 (fax) > > Provenance below: >X-ListName: A Discussion of Narrative in Everyday Life > >Warnings-To: <> >Errors-To: owner-narrative-l@hg.uleth.ca >Sender: owner-narrative-l@hg.uleth.ca >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:18:06 EST >From: Martin.Packer@um.cc.umich.edu >Reply-To: NARRATIVE-L@hg.uleth.ca >To: narrative-l@hg.uleth.ca >X-MTS-Userid: GFX8 >Subject: Massacre in Chiapas >X-UIDL: 792478632.002 > > > >------- Forwarded message > >Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by um.cc.umich.edu via MTS-Net; Fri, 10 Feb 95 >23:13:57 EST >Received: (from procmail@localhost) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9) id >TAA08397; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:11:38 -0800 >Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:11:38 -0800 >Message-Id: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 22:09:35 -0500 >To: xlchc@weber.ucsd.edu, schlegel@anthro.sscnet.ucla.edu, > yengestr@weber.ucsd.edu, Duranti@anthro.sscnet.ucla.edu, > cottan@eso.mc.xerox.com, Linell@Tema.LiU.SE, > SATOHA@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu, IHW1027@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, > IHW1051@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, thorne@mizar.usc.edu >From: Goodwin@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu (Chuck Goodwin) >Subject: Massacre in Chiapas >Resent-Message-ID: <"1vUSr3.0.732.gh2Fl"@weber> >Resent-From: xlchc@weber.ucsd.edu >Reply-To: xlchc@weber.ucsd.edu >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/721 >X-Loop: xlchc@weber.ucsd.edu >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: xlchc-request@weber.ucsd.edu > From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Tue Feb 14 07:48:34 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: Chase Manhattan wants everyone to know (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:54:08 -0600 (CST) Status: RO In case some of you on the PSN list did not see this it reconfirms what I had said to a colleague about the relationship between the Zapatistas and the financial markets. While Mexico's peso devaluation was surely a result of unstable financial markets, the catalyst in fact has been the possibility of domestic disruption promised by the Zapatistas. Talmadge Forwarded message: > From root Mon Feb 13 23:56:35 1995 > Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 23:54:01 -0600 (CST) > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 23:54:01 -0600 (CST) > From: Rust Gilbert > Subject: Chase Manhattan wants everyone to know > To: nwrc@wwa.com > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Resent-Message-Id: <"nn7ta3.0.8P1.MO4Gl"@sashimi.wwa.com> > Resent-From: nwrc@wwa.com > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/35 > X-Loop: nwrc@wwa.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: nwrc-request@wwa.com > > 'U.S. Bank disavows newsletter on Mexico' > > NEW YORK, Feb. 13 (UPI) -- Chase Manhattan Bank distanced itself > Monday from a newsletter produced by its Emerging Markets Group that > called on Mexico to "eliminate the Zapatista" rebels in the southern > state of Chiapas. > The four-page newsletter, "Mexico - Political Update," authored by > Riordan Roett "does not reflect the opinion of Chase Manhattan," a > bank official said. > Roett, director of Latin American Studies at the John Hopkins School > of Advanced International Studies who was on leave of absence while > serving as a Chase adviser, "is not, and will not be available," she > said. > The Jan. 13 newsletter was released as President Clinton proposed a > $40-billion loan guarantee to prop up the fumbling Mexican peso that has > lost more than 40 percent of its value in relation to the dollar. > Analysts have pointed to the uprising in Chiapas as a major element > in the flight of foreign investors that weakened the Mexican peso. > "The uprising has boosted the price of the Mexican Indian blood," > said the man known as Subcommander Marcos, who leads the Zapatista > National Liberation Army in Chiapas. > "Not long ago, it was valued less than two chickens, now it is the > condition for the largest loan of ignominy in history," he said Monday. > The Chase newsletter said "the uprising in Chiapas is now one year > old and no nearer to resolution." > After a reference to "local peasants groups who are sympathetic to > Marcos and his cronies," Roett said that the government of President > Ernesto Zedillo "will need to eliminate the Zapatistas to demonstrate > their effective control of the national territory and of security > policy." > Regarding the elections this year in the states of Jalisco, > Guanajuato, Yucatan, Michoacan, and Baja California, Roett wrote that > "the Zedillo administration will need to consider carefully whether or > not to allow opposition victories if fairly won at the ballot box." > "To deny legitimate electoral victories by the opposition will be a > serious setback in the President's electoral strategy," Roett wrote. > "But a failure to retain PRI control runs the risk of splitting the > governing party." > The Revolutionary Institutional Party (PRI), has ruled Mexico since > the 1920s. > > > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From twright@orion.it.luc.edu Tue Feb 14 15:13:00 MST 1995 From: twright@orion.it.luc.edu (Talmadge Wright) Subject: CHIAPAS: THE INFAMOUS CHASE INTERNAL REPORT!! (fwd) To: psn@csf.colorado.edu Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:18:07 -0600 (CST) Status: RO Forwarded message: > From root Tue Feb 14 14:15:26 1995 > Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 12:04:40 -0800 > Reply-To: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > Sender: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > From: Nathan Newman > Subject: CHIAPAS: THE INFAMOUS CHASE INTERNAL REPORT!! (fwd) > Comments: To: LEFTNEWS List , > "CoC-L: CoCdiscuss list" , > Left List- LEFT-L , > badsubjects@uclink.berkeley.edu > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 10:18:08 -0800 > From: D Shniad > Subject: THE INnt Zedillo > on January 3, 1995, the most difficult negotiations were apparently with the > labor unions who feared the impact on their membership of the hardships > required if the program is to be successful. In September 1994, the unions > had signed an agreement with the government and business that allowed a seven > percent wage increase for 1995. That agreement also included income-tax > credits for the lowest-paid workers and some productivity bonuses in > contracts. > > The seven percent wage package was considered a fair deal then because the > government estimated that inflation would be only four percent in 1995. With > the loss of purchasing power and rises in prices resulting from the peso's > devaluation, government economists now think inflation might reach fifteen > percent in 1995, and some economists say it will exceed twenty percent. > > Mexican workers still have not recovered the standard of living they had in > 1980, now three devaluations ago. The new agreement signed January 3, 1995 > retains the seven percent wage increase. In exchange, the government > pledged to minimize price increases and keep inflation from spiraling. Under > the agreement, the lowest-paid workers will get a tax credit equal to as > much as three percent of income. The government has promised to expand to > 700,000 people government-funded scholarships for worker training. > > In our opinion prolonged continuation of the current crisis will result in > pressures to reopen the agreement and compensate Mexican workers for their > loss of purchasing power prolonged continuation of the current crisis will > result in > pressures to reopen the agreement and compensate Mexican workers for their > loss of purchasing power. The first indication of this occured on > January 11, when the Mexican Confederation of Labor called on its affiliates > to demand an immediate 15.3 percent salary increase for January and a 56 > percent increase for the rest of 1995. The strong corporatist links between > government and unions have weakened in recent years. While the > administration still retains influence, it does not have total control. If > the crisis continues, the Zedillo administration may be faced with the > options of either rejecting worker demands for higher wages and facing the > possibility of demonstrations or yielding to worker demands which will > further aggravate the economic situation. > > CONCLUSIONS > > The Mexican monetary crisis has overshadowed the commitment of the Zedillo > administration to a new wave of political reforms that include political > negotiations to resolve the Chiapas crisis and to guarantee fair elections > at the state and municipal levels. It also raises the issue of whether or > not the Mexican working class will accept a prolonged period of wage losses > and diminished living standards. These social and political questions, > which are of high priority to the President, will inevitably be postponed > until the economic situation is clarified. To the degree that the Zedillo > government is unable to stabilize the peso and avoid inflation, in our > opinion, it runs the risk of social and political uncertainty. > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Fri Feb 10 18:47:58 MST 1995 >From chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Fri Feb 10 18:47:58 1995 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.5]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with SMTP id SAA21453 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 18:47:57 -0700 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ([128.220.2.5]) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu with SMTP id <1513-6>; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:53:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:53:14 -0500 From: Christoph Chase-Dunn Subject: Mobilize Now to Stop the Mexican Government! (fwd) To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO > From root Fri Feb 10 02:27:23 1995 > Message-Id: <9502100827.AA95973@orion.it.luc.edu> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 00:11:10 -0800 > Reply-To: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > Sender: LEFT-L - Building a Democratic Left Movement > > From: Jason Wehling > Subject: Mobilize Now to Stop the Mexican Government! (fwd) > Comments: To: left-l@cmsa.berkeley.edu, anarchy-list@cwi.nl, 1-union@lever.com > To: Multiple recipients of list LEFT-L > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 23:12:10 -0600 (CST) > From: Harry M. Cleaver > To: chiapas-l@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx > Cc: mexico94@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx, reg.mexico@igc.apc.org, > mexico-l@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx > Subject: Mobilize Now to Stop the Mexican Government! > > Action Alert! > > At 6 o'clock this evening, Mexican President Zedillo went on television > and announced that the government had discovered EZLN arms caches in > Veracruz City and Mexico City. He identified Subcommandante Marcos as > "Rafael Santiago Guillen Vicente". He proceeded to brand the EZLN > "terrorists" and announced that he had ordered to Mexican Army to > "capture" them, i.e., to attack. Zedillo said the army has been ordered > to "search" for them "in all national territory". This seems a code for > attacking Zapatista territory in Chiapas. > > This appears to be the attack that we have all feared was coming. The > velvet glove of peaceful negotiations has been cast off and the mailed fist > of the Mexican state has once more been bared. Zedillo's branding of the EZLN > as "terrorists" is a return to the language used by Salinas a year ago in > his first reactions to the uprising. > > The only thing that stopped the military then, and the only thing > that will stop it now is massive mobilization against the government's actions. > > Therefore, all who have mobilized in solidarity with the struggle for > democracy in Mexico should organize immediate action. If we can, once again, > create an international wave of protest against the Mexican state's actions > perhaps we can bring this new offensive to a stop. If we do not so > organize we will share responsibility for the murders and tortures the > Mexican army and police have probably already begun. > > > ====================================== > Harry Cleaver > Department of Economics > University of Texas at Austin > Austin, Texas 78712-1173 > USA > > Phone Numbers: (hm) (512) 442-5036 > (off) (512) 471-3211 > Fax: (512) 471-3510 > E-mail: hmcleave@mundo.eco.utexas.edu > ====================================== > -- ********************************************************************** Talmadge Wright (312)508-3451 * Dept. of Sociology & Anthropology FAX:(312)508-3646 * Loyola University Chicago twright@orion.it.luc.edu * 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. * Chicago, Illinois 60626 * ********************************************************************** From chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Wed Feb 15 07:37:14 MST 1995 >From chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Wed Feb 15 07:37:14 1995 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.5]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with SMTP id HAA20072 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 07:37:12 -0700 Received: from [128.220.25.44] ([128.220.25.44]) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu with SMTP id <1144-2>; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 09:42:44 -0500 X-NUPop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:34:19 -0500 From: "Chris Chase-Dunn" Sender: chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Message-Id: <34459.chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Fw: Roett & Chase Bank v. Zapatistas Status: RO ------------------------------ From: otero@sfu.ca (Gerardo Otero) Sun, 12 Feb 1995 14:00:00 -0500 To: chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Subject: Roett & Chase Bank v. Zapatistas >********************** > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 17:55:09 -0600 (CST) >From: Harry M. Cleaver >To: chiapas-l@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx >Cc: mexico94@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx, mexico-l@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx >Subject: Chase Bank calls for Crushing Zapatistas > >"In the name of investor confidence, a powerful U.S. bank is calling on >the Mexican government to crush the Zapatista insurgency in Chiapas." >Thus begins a striking article in Ken Silverstein and Alex Cockburn's >February 1, 1995 issue of COUNTERPUNCH. > >Silverstein and Cockburn's article is based on an internal report >prepared by Riordan Roett, director of Latin American Studies at the >Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and now "on a >leave of absence while serving as a Chase advisor." > >Studying the report and exploring Roett's other interventions >into the Mexico crisis, Silverstein and Cockburn discover a rabid desire >for war to protect Chase's investors. In the report Roett argues: "The >government will need to eliminate the Zapatistas to demonstrate their >effective control of the national territory and security policy". At a >January 11 seminar for hundreds of investors organized by the Center for >Strategic and International Studies, Roett "conceeded that his call for >war, if heeded by Zedillo, might provoke negative repercussions >internationally, but here were 'always political costs in bold actions.'" > >Coming on top of other, more fragmentary but frequent, evidence of the role >of Wall Street in precipitating Zedillo's declaration of war, these >materials indicate even more strongly than ever that however much Zedillo >may wish to crush the Zapatistas for his own internal reasons, the >external pressures of international capital had become acute. >Unfortunately, the authors conclusion that "For now, Zedillo and a PRI >majority will likely reject Roett's final solution for Chiapas." has >proved to be all too optimistic. > >==================================article================================ > >Ken Silverstein and Alexander Cockburn, "Major U.S. Bank Urges Zapatista >Wipe-Out: 'A litmus test for Mexico's stability'" COUNTERPUNCH, Vol. 2, >No. 3, February 1, 1995. > >In the name of investor confidence, a powerful U.S. bank is calling on >the Mexican government to crush the Zapatista insurgency in Chiapas. >Heading up the larger Wall Street war party is Chase Bank, specifically >its Emerging Markets Group, which has billions at risk in Mexico. Chase's >Jan. 13 "Political Update on Mexico," passed to COUNTERPUNCH by a banking >insider, states bluntly: "The government will have to eliminate the >Zapatistas to demonstrate their effective control of the national >territory and security policy." > >Chase is under no illusions that the December crash of the peso was >prompted by the Zapatistas. It is fully aware that the implosion of the >Mexican economy was caused by the overvaluation of the peso that enabled >U.S. investors such as itself to convert their killings on Mexican bonds >into the safety of the dollar. > >U.S. financiers and political stragtegists now fear that a Mexican >government led by the novice Ernesto Zedillo --rather than by >Washington's trusted agent, ex. President Carlos Salinas-- will waver, >temporize with the Zapatistas and seek to placate domestic discontent. > >But any appeasement of popular fury will come at the expense of foreign >investors, whose security in Mexico was the fundamental purpose of the >NAFTA agreement. Hence the need to finish off Subcommandante Marcos and >his comrades. As the Chase Update put it, "While Chiapas, in our >opinion, does not pose a fundamental threat to Mexican political >stability, it is perceived to be so by many in the investment community." > >Chase plays down the possibility of a negotiated settlement to the >conflict in Chiapas, saying 'it is difficult to imagine that the current >environment will yield a peaceful solution." Zedillo may not be able to >gain the confidence of the Zapatistas and their supporters because "the >monetary crisis limits the resources available to the government for >social and economic reforms." In other words, foreign investors should >have first rights to the dwindling reserves at the Mexican treasury, >which will leave almost nothing left to implement anti-poverty programs >Zedillo has promised for Chiapas. > >The author of the Emerging Market Group's memo is Riordan Roett, director >of Latin American Studies at the Johbns Hopkins School of Advanced >International Studies and now on a leave-of-absence while serving as a >Chase advisor. Known as a conservative but rational sort in academic >circles, Roett's views have hardened since he went to work full-time for >Wall Street, in the grand homicidal tradition of such academic >policymakers as Louis Adolphe Thiers, Walt Rostow, Henry Kissinger and >Hemran Cohen. > >Roett is said to be particularly bitter over events south of the border >because, an informant tells us, he had assured Chase executives that >Zedillo --whom Roett has known and worked with for a decade-- could be >counted on to do the bidding of foreign investors. Comforted, Chase >increased its Mexican investments, only to take a beating when a huge >trade deficit forced Zedillo to devalue the peso. > >Roett also calls on the Mexican government to take a hard-nosed approach >to other difficulties it is facing. The PRI, Mexico's ruling party, has >grim prospects for elections scheduled in five states this year. Roett >proposes that the PRI solve this problem by stealing the vote. "The >Zedillo administration willneed to consider carefully whether or not to >allow opposition victories if fairly won at the ballot box," he writes. >"To deny legitimate electoral victories by the opposition will be a >serious setback in the President's electoral strategy. But failure to >retain PRI control runs the risk of spliting the government party." > >Roett has been lobbying fiercely in Washington to promote his scorched >earth policy for Mexico and to demand that Congress quickly approve >Clinton's $40 billion bail-out of Chase and other big investors --a >lproblem solved when the president, faced with sure defeat in Congress, >used emergency powers to authorize a new rescue package. Roett has >briefed Bob Dole, testified before the Senate Steering Committee, which >musters conservatives such as Trent Lott and Malcolm Wallop; advised >State Department officials; and addressed hundreds of political and >financial leaders at a Jan. 11 seminar organized by the Center for >Strategic and International Studies. > >Roett bordered on hyusteria at the latter affair. Saying that clients >were always asking him why the Mexican government couldn't control the >Zapatistas, Roett argued that it was "essential, from the investor >point-of-view, to resolve the Chiapas issue as quickly as possible." He >conceded that his call for war, if heeded by Zedillo, might provoke >negative repercussions internationally, but there wre "always political >costs in bold action." > >Roett's remarks were warmly received by his audience. Elliott Abrams >furiously scribbled notes during his presentation while nodding his head >in approval. Syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer wrote an article a >few days later saying that no one at the seminar "explained [Mexico's >situation] better" than Roett, adding that scholars and financiers in >attendance "seemed to agree that while . . . [the Zapatistas] do not >threaten a wider rebellion in Mexico, they have become a litmus test for >Mexico's stability." > >Dalal Baer, a Senior Fellow at the CSIS and moderator of the seminar, >thanked Roett for his comments and lamented the dilemma faced by Mexico, >pressured to open up its political system even though "financial markets >might not respond positively to increased democracy because it leads to >increased uncertainty." Like Roett and many other "academics", Baer is a >creature of Wall Street, serving as an advisor to Bear Sterns & Company. > >David Malpass, a director at Bear Stearns, said that inexchange for a >U.S. organized bailout, Zedillo should appease foreign investors with a >"giant reestablishment of confidence." Malpass and others suggested new >privatizations, allowing 100% foreign ownership of the banking system, >and opening up Mexico's oil industry. Though not discussed at the >seminar, some House Republicans, acting at the behest of Jorge Mas >Canosa, head of Miami's Cuban American National Foundation, are also >demanding that Mexico cut off commercial credits to Cuba. > >For now, Zedillo and a PRI majority will likely reject Roett's final >solution for Chiapas. An official from the Interior Ministry at the >seminar said the Chase man's call for war was "inadmissible". > >But prominent forces in Mexico will be heartened by Roett's analysis. >Last Dec. 18 a group of Mexican businessmen reportedly met with Zedillo >to demand tha tthe new government go on the offensive in Chiapas. Some >high-ranking military officials have long been lobbying for war and, >according to reprots from Santiago and Buenos Aires, military advisors >from Chile and Argentina --two of the most brutal of Latin America's >armies, responsible for tens of thousands of deaths during the seventies >'dirty wars' --have been sent to train Mexican troops. > >The parallel here is with the dispatch of Argentine officers to train the >Nicaraguan Contras at the start of the Eighties. > > * * * > >====================================== >Harry Cleaver >Department of Economics >University of Texas at Austin >Austin, Texas 78712-1173 >USA > >Phone Numbers: (hm) (512) 442-5036 > (off) (512) 471-3211 >Fax: (512) 471-3510 >E-mail: hmcleave@mundo.eco.utexas.edu >====================================== > > > > > From chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Wed Feb 15 17:57:59 MST 1995 >From chriscd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Wed Feb 15 17:57:58 1995 Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with ESMTP id RAA11789 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:57:56 -0700 Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V4.3-9 #5488) id <01HN39WS01CWH12EF1@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu>; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:03:22 -0500 (EST) From: Christoph Chase-Dunn Subject: Chase Manhattan wants everyone to know (fwd) To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO XTaken from the Progressive Sociologists Network: > 'U.S. Bank disavows newsletter on Mexico' > > NEW YORK, Feb. 13 (UPI) -- Chase Manhattan Bank distanced itself > Monday from a newsletter produced by its Emerging Markets Group that > called on Mexico to "eliminate the Zapatista" rebels in the southern > state of Chiapas. > The four-page newsletter, "Mexico - Political Update," authored by > Riordan Roett "does not reflect the opinion of Chase Manhattan," a > bank official said. > Roett, director of Latin American Studies at the John Hopkins School > of Advanced International Studies who was on leave of absence while > serving as a Chase adviser, "is not, and will not be available," she > said. > The Jan. 13 newsletter was released as President Clinton proposed a > $40-billion loan guarantee to prop up the fumbling Mexican peso that has > lost more than 40 percent of its value in relation to the dollar. > Analysts have pointed to the uprising in Chiapas as a major element > in the flight of foreign investors that weakened the Mexican peso. > "The uprising has boosted the price of the Mexican Indian blood," > said the man known as Subcommander Marcos, who leads the Zapatista > National Liberation Army in Chiapas. > "Not long ago, it was valued less than two chickens, now it is the > condition for the largest loan of ignominy in history," he said Monday. > The Chase newsletter said "the uprising in Chiapas is now one year > old and no nearer to resolution." > After a reference to "local peasants groups who are sympathetic to > Marcos and his cronies," Roett said that the government of President > Ernesto Zedillo "will need to eliminate the Zapatistas to demonstrate > their effective control of the national territory and of security > policy." > Regarding the elections this year in the states of Jalisco, > Guanajuato, Yucatan, Michoacan, and Baja California, Roett wrote that > "the Zedillo administration will need to consider carefully whether or > not to allow opposition victories if fairly won at the ballot box." > "To deny legitimate electoral victories by the opposition will be a > serious setback in the President's electoral strategy," Roett wrote. > "But a failure to retain PRI control runs the risk of splitting the > governing party." > The Revolutionary Institutional Party (PRI), has ruled Mexico since > the 1920s. > From **In relation with posting *Chase Manhattan Report (original)* here another information about the "public diassociation with the document", according Chase Manhattan Bank. Cordially, **Javier Campos Modern Languages & Literatures, Latin American & Caribbean Studies Fairfield University Connecticut, EE.UU. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- **Source: Newsgroups: soc.culture.mexican ================================================================= The circulation of the internal Chase Bank report calling for the elimination of the Zapatistas has so disturbed the Bank that it has issued a public diassociation from the document and its author --a Chase employee. The following story was filed on the AP wire yesterday. So far I have not seen it in print. Although Chase "disavows" the statement, its spokesperson also admits that the report was one Chase provided to its "capital markets clients." Now, how can a business in the service sector that "provided" this report to its clients as an integral part of its services to them "disavow" something which was clearly its own product?? This is twisting and turning to avoid corporate responsibility, scapegoating the worker whose report it was circulating. Highly amusing at one level. Pathetic at another. (By the way, the fact that Roett is the Director of Latin American Studies at Johns Hopkins, when he is not prostituting his brain and mouth to Chase, raises interesting questions about the nature of such "Area Studies" centers and the role they have played in setting the stage for current Mexican government actions.) ----begin AP story---- Chase Bank Denies Urging Elimination of Mexican Rebels By Donald M. Rothberg AP Diplomatic Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - A Chase Manhattan assessment of political and economic turmoil in Mexico said last month that the government would need "to elminate the Zapatistas" to restore stability. The bank disavowed the statement Monday as the work of an independent scholar. The assessment for Chase's Emerging Markets' Group w3as written by Riordan Roett, who is on leave as director of Latin American Studies at Johns Hopkins University. Reached at Chase Manhattan, Roett declined to comment. Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo ordered troops into the Chiapas state last week to hunt down leaders of the rebel Zapatista movement. In a letter released Monday, Subcommandante Marcos, the rebel leader, accused the government of taking the offensive to repay those who helped ease Mexico's financial crisis. Roett's assessment, dated Jan. 13, said "while Chiapas, in our opinion, does not pose a fundamental threat to Mexican political stability, it is perceived to be so by many in the investment community." "The government will need to eliminate the Zapatistas to demonstrate their effective control of the national territory and of security policy," Roett wrote. After Roett's comments became known, the bank issued a statement saying his opinions "represent his personal views as a scholar. They were not meant to nor do they represent the views of Chase Manhattan." The brief statement said Roett "has written commentaries that Chase Manhattan's Emerging Markets Group has distributed to its capital markets clients." Spokesman John Anderson said the Emerging Markets Group is the "area of the bank that specializes in trading, issuing and underwriting emerging market debt." Anderson refused to comment when asked the extent of Chase Manhattan's investments in Mexico. "The greatest threat to political stability in Mexico today, we believe, is the current monetary crisis," wrote Roett. "Until the administration of President Ernesto Zedillo identifies the appropriate policies to stabilize the peso and avoid uncontrolled inflation, it will be almost impossible to address issues such as Chiapas and judicial and electoral reform." After Congress rebuffed President Clinton's effort to provide Mexico with $40 billion in U.S. loan guarantees to help stabilize the peso, Clinton unilaterally came up with $20 billion in support from a Treasury Department fund created to defend the value of the dollar. Congressional approval was not required to use that fund. Clinton asked Congress to act the day before Roett wrote his memo. He took unilateral action 18 days later. ----end of AP story---- ====================================== Harry Cleaver Department of Economics University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 78712-1173 USA Phone Numbers: (hm) (512) 442-5036 (off) (512) 471-3211 Fax: (512) 471-3510 E-mail: hmcleave@mundo.eco.utexas.edu ====================================== An From GN842@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Fri Feb 10 12:59:54 MST 1995 From: GN842@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:37:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: re holloway re interest #2 To: ipe@csf.colorado.EDU Status: RO It occurred to me that Holloway's figures for the bond lending rate might be for CANADA and not the United States. We've got thousands of universities in the U.S. so it is hard to keep track of who is where. Canadian interest rates could be high in spit4e of low inflaiton because: 1) Currency devaluation. Outside money won't come in w/o an interest premium to compensate the recent decline in the value of the Canadian dollar. 2) Higher risk. Per capita debt in Canada is greater than the U.S., in country whose GNP is smaller than California's. Amount of indebtedness alone may amount to an "intrinsic" higher risk and therefore the need for a higher premium. 3) Higher risk: particular to Canada. If one were a holder of a California bond, and San Francisco and the Bay Area were actively ruled by a secessionist coalition, a bond holder would have to consider the possibility of domestic turmoil w/economic consequences. In particular, the "exit" of a large section of territory would mean that the remaining debt would be financed by a smaller economy (even if it were totally peaceful), unless the secessionsists were convinced to secede with their "fair share" of the debt (one can imagine what the debates about THAT would look like). Canada is in precisely this situation due to Quebec; and until this question came up it had not occurred to me to think that the entire Canadian economy might be suffering an interest rate penalty due to internal politics. But of course, this happens with less-developed nations all the time (cf. Chiapas). 4) Less useful bonds. Canadian bonds probably are tied to a billion not a trillion dollar economy and the circulation of the bonds themselves as instruments of exchange (as does happen w/major currencies) would not be as big an item. This would also mean an interest premium relative to "bigger economies." Thus if the Canadian govt bond rate is around 11% while the U.S. rate is around 8% it seems to me that these factors could easily explain the differential. If one were to inflate the Canadian economy the bond rate would drift up to the ANTICIPATED rate of inflation. Since this reflects people's desires to protect themselves from what they imagine will happen rather than what will happen, there is a "fear premium" on top of the actual inflation rate. I am not convinced that in the current organization of capital markets that deliberate inflation is good for the working class; but I am open to hearing arguments. If I had to pick, by the way, from the materials above, I would say that the decline in the Canadian dollar is by far and away the largest factor affecting interest rates for Canadian govt bonds. g.nowell@albany.edu From awiener@ccs.carleton.ca Mon Feb 13 13:36:27 MST 1995 From: awiener@ccs.carleton.ca (Antje Wiener) Subject: mexico To: ipe@csf.colorado.edu (ipe list) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 95 13:32:56 EST Status: RO RE: daily updates about Mexico from "La Joranda" via UNAM in Spanish Since I posted the info on news from Mexico I have received an average of two daily requests for the address, and how to subscribe. As government troops have begun to invade Chiapas (apparently with US-American consent, as "La Jornada" reports), and neglecting the constitutional right to information, the Mexican list has recently also provided infos obtained via radio and individual reports. Given the interest and the current political developments in Mexico, here's the info on how to subscribe for all at once: address: listproc@listas.unam.mx message: subscribe notipaez your_name ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Antje Wiener Department of Political Science Carleton University Email address: awiener@ccs.carleton.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rgv11@hermes.cam.ac.uk Wed Feb 15 09:32:46 MST 1995 by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #26) id m0remj4-0005vbC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 16:37 GMT (Smail-3.1.29.0 #11) id m0remdT-0001xpC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 16:31 GMT Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:31:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "Robert G. Volterra" To: ipe@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: Chiapas and Pedagogy: SHORT NOTE ONLY In-Reply-To: Status: RO Dear Fellow IPE-ers, I hope that all those who are teaching are managing to incorporate recent developments in the Chiapas into their materials. Not only does the inclusion of current events bring what might otherwise be dry materials to life, but it helps to draw out the implications of our various disciplines and theories on real human beings. One can think of a variety of relevant subjects that touch upon what is happening in Mexico: international law, constitutional law, international trade, NAFTA, environmental degredation, indigenous populations, the Roman Catholic Church, NGO's in society, social movememnts, conceptions of community, international political economy, Latin American studies, refugees, etc etc etc. I am sure that you can think of more than I can. Not the least reason for my sending this message is that I am apoplectic about many things going on recently in Mexico and I am firmly of the belief that educating students includes giving them an awareness of the interconnectedness of all things. Also, I think that the more people who know what is happening in Chiapas (or even that something IS happening: UK media is remarkably silent on the matter), the less freedom to violate human rights the Mexican government has. Robert Volterra Faculty of Law University of Cambridge From GN842@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Wed Feb 15 15:10:51 MST 1995 From: GN842@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:07:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: relevancy To: ipe@csf.colorado.EDU Status: RO We have recently been urged by Prof. Volterra of Cambridge Eng. (note non-USA!) to make our courses relevant by including materials on the Chiapas rebellion and (no doubt) the misdeeds of the Chase Manhatten bank. American political scientists will rightly see this as an affront to a carefully cultivated tradition of non-relevance. Those wishing to maintain this tradition are hearby exhorted: 1. To de-subscribe from the IPE net; 2. To assign, read, and memorize Almond and Powell's _Comparative Politics: System, Process, and Policy_. 3. You can also use the 5 nation study by Verba et al. 4. Remember that it is a basic tenet of structural functionalism that nations develop autonomously from one another. g.nowell@albany.edu From kindley@maroon.tc.umn.edu Wed Feb 15 19:47:52 MST 1995 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:29:37 -0600 (CST) From: Randall W Kindley Subject: Re: relevancy To: ipe@csf.colorado.edu In-Reply-To: <01HN33KQ8QWA8X4C37@albnyvms.BITNET> Status: RO What Yuch! On Wed, 15 Feb 1995 GN842%ALBNYVMS.BITNET@vaxf.Colorado.EDU wrote: > > We have recently been urged by Prof. Volterra of Cambridge Eng. (note > non-USA!) to make our courses relevant by including materials on the > Chiapas rebellion and (no doubt) the misdeeds of the Chase Manhatten > bank. > > American political scientists will rightly see this as an affront to > a carefully cultivated tradition of non-relevance. Those wishing to > maintain this tradition are hearby exhorted: > > 1. To de-subscribe from the IPE net; > 2. To assign, read, and memorize > Almond and Powell's _Comparative Politics: System, Process, and Policy_. > 3. You can also use the 5 nation study by Verba et al. > 4. Remember that it is a basic tenet of structural functionalism that > nations develop autonomously from one another. > > g.nowell@albany.edu > From moon@thunderbird.auc.laurentian.ca Wed Feb 15 23:02:44 MST 1995 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 01:05:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael A. Moon" Subject: Re: relevancy To: ipe@csf.colorado.edu In-Reply-To: Status: RO Excuse me for this posting but I need to ask this question, are these people serious in these messages or is it some sarcastic response that's getting out of hand? Help me someone I'm at a loss. ****************************************************************************** Michael A. Moon The Master said, He who rules by moral Algoma University College force (te') is like the pole-star which Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario remains in its place while all the lesser Canada stars do homage to it. moon@thunderbird.auc.laurentian.ca The Analects of Confucius ****************************************************************************** On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Randall W Kindley wrote: > What Yuch! > > On Wed, 15 Feb 1995 GN842%ALBNYVMS.BITNET@vaxf.Colorado.EDU wrote: > > > > > We have recently been urged by Prof. Volterra of Cambridge Eng. (note > > non-USA!) to make our courses relevant by including materials on the > > Chiapas rebellion and (no doubt) the misdeeds of the Chase Manhatten > > bank. > > > > American political scientists will rightly see this as an affront to > > a carefully cultivated tradition of non-relevance. Those wishing to > > maintain this tradition are hearby exhorted: > > > > 1. To de-subscribe from the IPE net; > > 2. To assign, read, and memorize > > Almond and Powell's _Comparative Politics: System, Process, and Policy_. > > 3. You can also use the 5 nation study by Verba et al. > > 4. Remember that it is a basic tenet of structural functionalism that > > nations develop autonomously from one another. > > > > g.nowell@albany.edu > > > From rgv11@hermes.cam.ac.uk Thu Feb 16 02:15:56 MST 1995 >From rgv11@hermes.cam.ac.uk Thu Feb 16 02:15:55 1995 Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk (black.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.33]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with SMTP id CAA14385 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 02:15:49 -0700 Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40] (ident = root) by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #26) id m0rf2Os-0005uBC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:21 GMT Received: by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.29.0 #11) id m0rf2JG-0001xpC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:15 GMT Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 09:15:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "Robert G. Volterra" X-Sender: rgv11@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk To: ipe@csf.colorado.edu cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: relevancy In-Reply-To: <01HN33KQ8QWA8X4C37@albnyvms.BITNET> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Sorry, I did not intend to offend anyone. Robert Volterra P.S. - As I indicated before, I do not have the title of "Professor". In England, only the Chairs are called "Professor". On Wed, 15 Feb 1995 GN842%ALBNYVMS.BITNET@vaxf.Colorado.EDU wrote: > > We have recently been urged by Prof. Volterra of Cambridge Eng. (note > non-USA!) to make our courses relevant by including materials on the > Chiapas rebellion and (no doubt) the misdeeds of the Chase Manhatten > bank. > > American political scientists will rightly see this as an affront to > a carefully cultivated tradition of non-relevance. Those wishing to > maintain this tradition are hearby exhorted: > > 1. To de-subscribe from the IPE net; > 2. To assign, read, and memorize > Almond and Powell's _Comparative Politics: System, Process, and Policy_. > 3. You can also use the 5 nation study by Verba et al. > 4. Remember that it is a basic tenet of structural functionalism that > nations develop autonomously from one another. > > g.nowell@albany.edu > From bertingr@ERE.UMontreal.CA Thu Feb 16 12:18:57 MST 1995 >From bertingr@ERE.UMontreal.CA Thu Feb 16 12:18:57 1995 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA (condor.CC.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.103]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with SMTP id MAA29425 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:18:55 -0700 Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA16856 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ipe@csf.colorado.edu); Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:21:11 -0500 Received: from mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA23865; Thu, 16 Feb 95 14:21:10 -0500 Received: by mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA15650; Thu, 16 Feb 95 14:21:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:21:08 -0500 (EST) From: Berting Robin Subject: Re: mexico To: ipe@csf.colorado.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list In-Reply-To: <9502131832.AA12121@superior> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, Antje Wiener wrote: > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 13:38:57 -0700 > From: Antje Wiener > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: mexico > > RE: daily updates about Mexico from "La Joranda" via UNAM in Spanish > > > Since I posted the info on news from Mexico I have received an average > of two daily requests for the address, and how to subscribe. > As government troops have begun to invade Chiapas (apparently with > US-American consent, as "La Jornada" reports), and neglecting > the constitutional right to information, the Mexican list has > recently also provided infos obtained via radio and individual reports. > > Given the interest and the current political developments in Mexico, > here's the info on how to subscribe for all at once: > > address: > listproc@listas.unam.mx > > message: > subscribe notipaez your_name > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Antje Wiener > Department of Political Science > Carleton University > Email address: awiener@ccs.carleton.ca > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm subscribing today. I'll tell you what I think of the news within a couple of days. Robin Berting bertingr@ere.umontreal.ca From m for humor. Whether an ironic riposte is appropriate for the net, and whether the incredulous replies were even more inappropriate, is difficult to say. There is, of course, the serious side of the issue: many of us were seriously taught by scholars not yet retired that nations developed independently of one another and that the development of structure was essentially an internally driven process. This has its IR equivalent in the work of Waltz. His notion of external homogeneity of states and internal differentiation is, I think, the IR version of structural functionalism. The net effect is to break down into distinct, non-overlapping "fields" the various phenomena of "international relations" "economics" and "domestic politics." There are Marixst versionso of structural functionalism but I won't get into it; I'm not particularly fond of those, either. Of course, the structuralist functionalist ethos as it was taught in the 1950s and 1960s and indeed into the 1980s by the old guard is hihgly compatible with the tenure-driven university ethos which places a premium on toeing the line so one can publish, nail down the job, and go about the business of buying a house and trying to enjoy the perquisites of a middle class lifestyle. The call to solidarity and relevance on the Chiapas issue, predicated as it was on the intellectual assumption that states *do* affect each other's development (or lack of it), struck me as "amusing" in the ironic sense that it was such an un-self-conscious contrast to the mind-numbing stuff which *some* professors made us read not too long ago. Non-U.S. types who want to understand what I mean should spend some time with Almond and Powell or any of the 1950s works by Talcott Parsons. I didn't *mean* to provoke such a rash of responses; but it is *interesting* that the structural functionalist spirits is still alive and well enough that people could respond in horror and indignation. g.nowell@albany.edu g