From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 2 08:20:17 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 2 Jun 93 07:38:28 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list From: frankdj@leland.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: TEACHING EXERCISES To: SOCAK663@emuvm1.cc.emory.edu (Joya Misra) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 19:35:45 PDT pm Socgrad-ers - Again, I appreciate all the ideas that you've shared with me! David suggested that I share some of the suggestions that people have sent me for my Class, Status, and Power class to engage in. Here are some of them (I've deleted names for privacy): ------------------------------------------------------------------------- A professor in our (Sociology) department and in the school of education has written extensively on this topic and has done lots of practical work implementing her findings in classrooms in the Stanford area. This project mostly has to do with status characteristics in the expectation states theory. (For more on that, see Berger et al 1977). She mostly tries to get kids to work in groups and take turns being assigned to be the leader AND THEN she counts the number of comments made by boys/girls, and it's much different. SHe also plays around with peer perceived status (most popular, smartest, etc.) and has some fascinating results. in ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try the reverse of the one you describe. Get a group of students to monitor instructors to see how many times they respond to male handraisers when there is a group of students with their hands up (allowing for handraising groups of varied composition, or ones that they pre-arranged beforehand--handraising is after all a voluntary activity and they can rig the handraising part of it). A more interesting one, and one that a professor of mine once tried, is to gauge the tone of responses to male vs. female and/or white vs. minority handraisers. She found that instructors (male and female in nearly equal terms) responded in harsher tones and asked more critical and challenging questions of male students than female, and of white students than minority. They tended to talk in more patronizing tones to female students. This kind of research has been conducted by quite a few Status of Women Committees and Equity Committees at universities in U.S. and Canada. Oh, here's another idea. Have some of your students observe groups of students around campus who are studying or in social settings (in cafeterias, etc.) and have them calculate to what extent groups are racially mixed. Just like 60 Minutes did about a month or so ago. [In fact, a tape of that broadcast might be useful in generating a discussion.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would suggest that one group look into the stratification of the faculty within your own university, ie ratio of male/female, tenured vs lecturers, pay ratios, race ratio....and then another group look at the same stratification within the state educational system...in missouri 75% of the high school, university, and administrative positions are held by men.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- One idea I plan to use was to have the students design an educational system that does not promote inequality. This will be the final paper for the class. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- How 'bout a little investigation into major field declarations? We know that women tend to stay away from science and engineering, I have a friend here doing work on self-efficacy and women in science -- perhaps by looking at proportions of women and minorities in the sciences, both profs and students, your class will get a feel for the intrinsic stratification in our culture. -- and some of the causes of sex segregation in work... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems that precisely because of the attitude that it does not happen HERE, the goal you have for the course is warranted. Another easy to access analysis would be to look at faculty composition across departments and schools within the university. Someone could also attend a course day (s) at the womens college (in decatur, but i forgot the name) ANd see if the observed differences in race in terms of classroom participation at Emory are present when there is not the presence of both genders in the classroom. This comparison would be especially interesting if the student examined the content of class participation (types of questions, style of asking them) for women across the two educational environments. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to you all ! Joya From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Jun 6 11:24:50 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Sun, 6 Jun 93 11:12:02 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 10:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Berch Berberoglu Subject: A Question To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Several months ago, following a letter I received in the mail regarding the new network SOCGRAD, I joined the net. But, after the debate between several grad students on whether or not to allow faculty to be on-line on this net, I decided that I did not belong to this forum and had to unsubscribe. It has been a number of months now since these discussions first arose and I am curious as to what decision the network has reached. I will be assuming my new position as Chair of the Soc. Dept. at Univ. of Nevada, Reno and will be vigorously pursuing my goal of revitilizing our graduate program beginning this fall semester. I would therefore like to rejoin the network to establish contact with potential applicants to our program as well as to develop an understanding of graduate student needs that might be helpful in our recruitment and retention of such students at UNR. IF your network has made a decision on this question (i.e., faculty membership on the net), I would like to hear from you. Thanks. Berch Berberoglu Dept. of Sociology University of Nevada, Reno berchb@unssun.scs.unr.edu From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Sun Jun 6 11:54:44 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Sun, 6 Jun 93 11:40:21 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list From: raallahyari@ucdavis.edu Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1993 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: e-mail To: socgrad e-mail I would like to be a part of your e-mail board. I am a graduate student in sociology at University of California, Davis. Thank you. Rebecca Anne Allahyari RAALLAHYARI@ucdavis.edu From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 9 02:53:00 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 15:34:39 -0500 From: "Patricia L. Pirkey" To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: the first time Hello, although I have been following the lively debates held in this forum for the last two semesters, this is the first time I have attempted to send a message. I have a few questions to pose to the general population out there. First, for those of you who frequently write lenghty messages to each other during regular school semesters, when do you find the time to do so. As a full time grad student and teaching assistant (and a mo or mom), I couldn't even find the time to read all of the mail, more or less send something. At times there were over two hundred pieces in my mailbox. Secondly, I must have missed the debate over whether or not professors should be included in the network or not, but I am curious as to how the vote turned out. Finally, I guess I just need to know if this message made it out there or not. So if you are the least bit curious about sociology in Mississippi, feel free to bit me and I will give you the news. That's all folks....................Pat From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 9 12:51:05 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 9 Jun 93 09:49:50 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Lummus Subject: ms sociology To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Pat, I am an MS expatriot via Univ. of TN at Knoxville and Univ. of Oregon. I will be heading southeast after graduation. How are Job opportunities in the Southeast? My areas are historical soc, environmental soc, social movements, and social theory. Are you planning to stay in the area? I love the Northwest but my partner and I want our son to be close to his grandparents (Tupelo, MS and Christiana TN). Allan Lummus dept of sociology University of OR alummus@darkwing.uoregon.edu From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 9 21:49:41 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 9 Jun 93 21:28:32 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list by weber.ucsd.edu (8.1/UCSDGENERIC.4b) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 21:28:30 -0700 From: lmiller@weber.ucsd.edu (Laura Miller) To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: the pres on Internet ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- THE WHITE HOUSE Office of Presidential Correspondence ______________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release June 1, 1993 LETTER FROM THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT IN ANNOUNCEMENT OF WHITE HOUSE ELECTRONIC MAIL ACCESS Dear Friends: Part of our commitment to change is to keep the White House in step with today's changing technology. As we move ahead into the twenty-first century, we must have a government that can show the way and lead by example. Today, we are pleased to announce that for the first time in history, the White House will be connected to you via electronic mail. Electronic mail will bring the Presidency and this Administration closer and make it more accessible to the people. The White House will be connected to the Internet as well as several on-line commercial vendors, thus making us more accessible and more in touch with people across this country. We will not be alone in this venture. Congress is also getting involved, and an exciting announcement regarding electronic mail is expected to come from the House of Representatives tomorrow. Various government agencies also will be taking part in the near future. Americans Communicating Electronically is a project developed by several government agencies to coordinate and improve access to the nation's educational and information assets and resources. This will be done through interactive communications such as electronic mail, and brought to people who do not have ready access to a computer. However, we must be realistic about the limitations and expectations of the White House electronic mail system. This experiment is the first-ever e-mail project done on such a large scale. As we work to reinvent government and streamline our processes, the e-mail project can help to put us on the leading edge of progress. Initially, your e-mail message will be read and receipt immediately acknowledged. A careful count will be taken on the number received as well as the subject of each message. However, the White House is not yet capable of sending back a tailored response via electronic mail. We are hoping this will happen by the end of the year. A number of response-based programs which allow technology to help us read your message more effectively, and, eventually respond to you electronically in a timely fashion will be tried out as well. These programs will change periodically as we experiment with the best way to handle electronic mail from the public. Since this has never been tried before, it is important to allow for some flexibility in the system in these first stages. We welcome your suggestions. This is an historic moment in the White House and we look forward to your participation and enthusiasm for this milestone event. We eagerly anticipate the day when electronic mail from the public is an integral and normal part of the White House communications system. President Clinton Vice President Gore PRESIDENT@WHITEHOUSE.GOV VICE.PRESIDENT@WHITEHOUSE.GOV ### From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 9 22:24:09 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 9 Jun 93 21:34:32 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 21:33:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Berch Berberoglu Subject: sub To: socgrad@ucsd.edu sub berchb@unssun.scs.unr.edu socgrad From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Thu Jun 10 11:54:50 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Thu, 10 Jun 93 08:58:49 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 2814; Thu, Date: 10 Jun 1993 08:43:49 CDT From: To: We are grad students @ University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, and we are forming a faculty/staff/grad softball team this summer. Who knows if we will be any good. We would like to have a unique and interesting team name based on sociology. We have come up with "Random Errors" and "The Mean Sum of Squares". Anyone out there have any other ideas? Anything more substantive rather than statistical? Thanks for your help. However, no prizes will be awarded. Sorry. Alan Young Dave Hunt From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Thu Jun 10 15:25:22 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Thu, 10 Jun 93 11:11:11 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 13:09:39 CDT From: C580002@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: social policy I'm casting a net for current works in social policy areas. When you have time, please respond and let me know what campus you are from and what work is in progress in social policy (and what area of social policy)....Thanks. Dj. From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 11 11:22:01 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 11 Jun 93 07:45:38 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 10:28:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Ryan Subject: Miami To: socgrad Greetings folks -- OK, time to put some razzle into this party. What's up? Has everyone gone to sleep. How about an easy query and project to get everyone back into the spirit of communicating (or at least breathing out loud)? Who is going to ASA? Who needs roommates? Who is driving from far away and could pick up other folks along the way? Which night should we have the (first) socgrad dinner? What about a button or pin or sticker that says "I do socgrad, do you?" or something like that? How about a networking (i.e., schmoozing) facilitation pledge -- promise to introduce at least one fellow socgrad person to someone of consequence every day or something like THAT? Or, well, I've put my thinking cap on, how about you? Remember, creativity is IN! More specifically, who IS going to Miami? Do you need roommates? I think we could provide an on-net letting people know what they might be in the market for with option then to make arrangements via "private" email (that is, we don't need to do the matchmaking). My own ASA experience (going back to 1985 -- what an old fart!) is that staying in the conference hotel is infinitely superior to other options if at all affordable -- commuting in to the conference from other side of town or even down the street can be a real drag. Also, the student accomodation in my experience doesn't tend to be all that good a deal. You often get stuck in substandard accomodations (qualitywise or locationwise or both) with not that great a savings over splitting a similar room with the same number of people at a regular conference hotel rate. This is especially true if you can split a room 3 or 4 ways (or more, if you are really a happy camper type). So, let us know what your plans are (and your pro and con ASA experiences are too). I'll also put together a summary list of who is doing what and send it out once a week or so during the summer. Looking forward to hearing from everybody... Dan ************************************************************************* danryan@minerva.cis.yale.edu 32 Pearl St. New Haven, CT. 06511 203-498-7505 From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Mon Jun 14 06:56:16 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Mon, 14 Jun 93 06:43:36 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 09:34 EDT From: "Pamela M Paxton" To: socgrad@UCSD.EDU Subject: ASA meetings Great Idea Dan! I think a socgrad get-together would be fun and I will (proudly) wear a socgrad pin in terms of accomodations, I plan on going to the conference for just two nights. I would love to know anyone else interested in sharing a room for Friday and Saturday night. actually, the nights that I plan on staying are flexible too I just don't have the time to stay for the whole thing. so if anyone is only staying for part of the time, any of the time and wants a roommate, let me know. I personally have no experience with the ASA's (why I'm going) but hearing from others would be beneficial Pam Paxton UPAMMP@unc.oit.unc.edu From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Mon Jun 14 10:45:16 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Mon, 14 Jun 93 09:19:58 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list From: frankdj@leland.Stanford.EDU Subject: student rates To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 9:19:55 PDT If you plan on going to the ASA meetings and plan on staying in one of the sanctioned hotels, write (right away) to the ASA for a student discount application. If the Miami setup is similar to Pittsburgh, the accommodations will be exactly the same as for other ASA members, only the rate will be slightly (like $10-15 a night) less. Send a SASE with a xerox of your student id to: ASA Student Housing 1722 N Street, NW Washington, DC 20036-2981 See you there, David PS Dan's message may indicate that the student accommodations have been, in some years past, substandard. I don't know about this. It wasn't true in Pittsburgh, at least in my hotel, but any clarification would be appreciated. From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Mon Jun 14 16:09:08 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Mon, 14 Jun 93 14:42:42 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: 14 Jun 1993 15:42:53 -0700 (MST) From: "Joe Hopper, University of Colorado" Subject: student rates at ASA To: socgrad@ucsd.edu in response to David's info about student housing form for Miami -- I received one, and the rates are exactly the same as regular ASA rates. big deal .. why do they even bother? From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Mon Jun 14 16:09:58 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Mon, 14 Jun 93 14:58:06 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 17:32:34 EDT From: Joya Misra Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA Subject: ASA HOUSING To: You guys Well, here's my two cents worth about student housing for grads at ASA. I think as long as you stay in a hotel close to the "headquarter" hotel, you'll be pretty happy. One of the conference hotels is probably your best bet. The only year I was miserable at ASA (1989?1990?) was when I stayed somewhere off from whole ASA gathering area. On the other hand, last year in Pittsburgh one of my friend stayed in a Red Carpet or something across from the William Penn and was very happy there. There are 6 hotels listed in the program -the Fountainbleau which is headquarters and very very nice(Single $84, Double $96 Triple $111). The Quality Shawnee Beach Resort is recently renovated and beachfront and a short walk to the Fount (Single/Double/Triple $79). The Eden Roc is not recently renovated and not quite as nice -- it says for the "rate conscious" (Single $60 Souble $70). The DOral Ocean Beach Resort is also very nice (SIngle $88 Double $98). The two others - Seacoast Towers and Castle Beach Club - are down the street a way (20 minute walk) and are supposed to be nice. Seacost only has suites- a plus for those who want to cook - and goes for $125 for a 1BR suite. The Castle Beack Club is SIngle $65 and Double $65. I sent away for the Official Student Housing Form (deadline if July 12 for reservations) and the prices quoted there are the same as those quoted in the program. The only hotels listed, though, are the Eden Roc, the Quality Shawnee Beach Resort, and the Castle Beach Club. Last year I roomed with a friend who's a faculty member and we stayed in the headquarter hotel and got breakfast in bed and everything. It was certainly worth the extra $10 a day for me, but my dept. paid for it... I hope that this answers most questions. As for myself, I will be there for several days, probably Friday through Monday night or Tuesday, and I haven't worked out my arrangements yet but should soon know the rest. ASA can be a great deal of fun, but it also seems like I'm fighting the feeling of simply being a commodity, rather than a human person. In other words, it's a real "meat market" until you get a job. Joya From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jun 15 14:20:05 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Tue, 15 Jun 93 12:26:50 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list by weber.ucsd.edu (8.1B/UCSDGENERIC.4b) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 12:26:48 -0700 From: lmiller@weber.ucsd.edu (Laura Miller) To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: Miami What would everyone say to trying to do a Socgrad dinner the night of Saturday, Aug. 14th? That seems to me the night that most people are likely to be in residence. Laura Miller From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jun 15 15:35:34 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Tue, 15 Jun 93 12:58:00 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Tue, 15 Jun 93 19:58:00 GMT Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 14:38:07 EST From: "Jonathon S. Epstein" Subject: Youth Culture Roundtable To: socgrad@ucsd.BitNet On Monday August 16 at 12:30 I will be facilitating a roundtable discussion on Youth Culture for the A.S.A. section on culture. I would like to extend an open invitation for all who are interested to attend. I would be particularly interested in folks who have a research agenda involving youth subcultures, rock music, rap music, postmodernism and cultural studies. My purpose is to bring together as many of us with these interests as possible in order to share information and open up networking ppossibilities. You can reach me by Email at JEPSTEIN@KENTVM.KENT.EDU if you'd like more info. This roundtable is brought to you by the Web. Jon >From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jun 15 16:13:12 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Tue, 15 Jun 93 15:48:11 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 18:47:09 -0400 (EDT) >From: Daniel Ryan Subject: Miami Dinner Plans To: socgrad Greets to one and all -- Saturday night sounds ok, but Friday might have some advantages: -- receptions (dev, orgs, soc psych, practice,general welcome) don't tend to last forever (whereas the "honorary" reception after the pres speech tends to have good food and be worth sticking around for) -- One hasn't generally hooked up with old friends, ex-colleagues, etc. yet on Friday, so a preplanned get to meet some people would be less likely to conflict with other plans -- the DAN party late Friday night is usually not a big event for grad students since we don't know that many of our predecessors, so returning to that event knowing some folks might make it more fun. There are probably some advantages to Saturday, too (as Laura said, more folks might be there). Anybody else got some thoughts on this? Cheers, Dan From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 16 06:53:16 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 16 Jun 93 06:30:37 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 3039; Wed, Date: 16 Jun 1993 08:17:27 CDT From: To: Subject: Team names Thanks to all who sent ideas for the name of our sociology softball team. Many were fine ideas, and the judges had a very difficult time deciding between them, they were all so qualified. Here is a list and the choice of the team captains. Some of the ideas are from the network, some are from the team. Collective Actions Grounded Theory Street Corner Socialists Diamond Deviants Trust us...We're Sociologists Prisoners of Sociology Marxists from Hell Outliers (Extreme) (Influential) Net Effects (volleyball) Random Errors Soc Slammers Ethnocentrics Big Social Dogs Durkheimlich Maneuvers Red (White) Socs Functionalists Outfliers Slow Curvilinears Stryker's Streaking Strikers Labeling Socs Missing Values Class Clouters (Conscious) Status Seekers Power Hitters Class, Status, Power (Party) Durkheim's Dugout Marx's Maulers Comte It, Baby. Talcot Parsons Project Social Sanctions Sociological Epiphanies Mean Sum of Sqauares We used Random Errors and Class, Status, Power for our two teams (open and co-rec). Thanks for all the helpful suggestions. Dave Hunt Alan Young From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 16 13:47:43 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 16 Jun 93 12:35:14 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Wed, 16 Jun 93 19:35:13 GMT Date: Wed, 16 Jun 93 14:17:24 EST From: Jonathon Epstein Subject: Youth Culture Roundtable To: socgrad@ucsd.BitNet I've recieved quite a bit of mail regarding the youth culture roundtable at this years A.S.A. so I thought I'd share my thoughts. I'm hoping that the roundtable can be an informal session where all of us who are interested in the broad topic of youth culture can begin to network, share sources, share ideas, meet others like us etc. There will be no papers presented although if you'd like to bring some notes to share that's cool. I would like to "pack the house" to show the elder statesmen of our discipline that this Youth Culture thing is "real sociology" While it isn't that important my interests are in rock music, heavy metal subcu lture, the sociology of the music industry and Postmodernism. I teach the sociology of adolescence and the sociology of rock music here in Ohio. My first book : Misplaced Childhood, will be the first in Garlands New Directio ns in Sociology Series and will be on the shelves in March. Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions, flames etc should be sent to me or the board. From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 18 07:14:19 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 16 Jun 93 13:43:13 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 13:40:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Lummus Subject: Need ASA housing? To: socgrad@ucsd.edu > > Abby Ferber from University of Oregon has a room in Miami and would like > another person. Does anyone need a bed? Call Abby (503) 344-9154 or > leave a message for her at my email address: alummus@darkwing.uoregon.edu. > > al the red > allan lummus > dept of soc > university of oregon > > > > From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 18 13:30:52 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 18 Jun 93 12:09:41 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 12:09:41 -0700 From: BEI@CUNYVMS1.BITNET Fri, 18 Jun 93 19:09:39 GMT Apparently-To: SOCGRAD@UCSD.BITNET Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 14:25 EDT From: Subject: asa To: socgrad@ucsd ASA meeting message ASA meeting at miami looking for roomate to share hotel room From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 18 13:53:34 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 18 Jun 93 13:17:34 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 15:50:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Ryan Subject: "THE REAL ANITA HILL: The Untold Story" To: socgrad Greetings friends and colleagues, Has anyone read this book yet? I've read several disturbingly (see below) complimentary reviews recently -- even from the reviews that praise the book one gets the idea that David Brock (the author) is shamelessly disrespectful of both "truth" and reasonable standards of journalism and research. In short, even in the positive reviews the book looks like schlocky smear journalism. I said "disturbingly" above because the attitude of several reviewers was something akin to "thank god someone has come forward to defend the bases of our civilization." I mean, really yukky self-righteous garbage, ya' know? Anyway, just today, I read a very reasonable (read "well reasoned") review in The Nation (by Dierdre English -- recommended) and there was one sentence that they used for a mid-page blurb: "Brock's book is a sham and a scandal; no reputable publishing house should have touched it." And, if the argument and evidence presented in the review correct, I'd have to say, it seems like a fair statement and a well chosen blurb. Now what does this have to do with us? Well, the publisher that is celebrating the best-seller status of this book is none other than The Free Press, known for its sociology list. I'm not one to incite kneejerk boycotts and such, but perhaps its worth taking a look at the book (it's always a drag that this is hard to do without buying it and contributing to its sales success) or at least looking at some reviews and sending a comment to the folks at Free Press. They can be in the form of "if it is as schlocky as it seems, I'm really disappointed that FP would choose to publish it and this has tarnished the press's reputation in my mind...." Yes, there's a fine line here, criticizing something I haven't read yet, but, dammit, that's what the folks who've assasinated Ms. Guinier and various Clinton proposals have been doing. Moral highroads aren't worth taking if the net effect is that you can feel good about your conscience without having to take any responsibility for how things turned out in reality. (thanks to Max Weber for that) Anyway, some mental meanderings on this hot and steamy New Haven summer afternoon. Dan (Ryan...just like the expressway) P.S. Anybody see any good movies lately? From socgrad-relay@nothing.ucsd.edu Fri Jun 18 14:25:04 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Thu, 17 Jun 93 15:56:29 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Thu, 17 Jun 93 22:56:28 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Lummus Subject: Anyone from UTK? To: socgrad@ucsd.bitnet Is anyone from University of Tennessee at Knoxville, on the list? allan lummus university of oregon alummus@darkwing.uoregon.edu From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 18 17:35:55 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 18 Jun 93 16:33:18 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 19:30:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Ryan Subject: Housing at ASA as of Friday 19 June. To: socgrad Greetings one and all, Here's the housing classifieds as they stand. I hope I got 'em right. I'll make up for my errors in Miami -- we'll see how... Cheers, Dan ASA Housing for SOCGRADers ========================== Roommates Sought or Indication of Being Open to Inquiries. Who finds him/herself... ...in what situation? ----------------------------- ----------------------------- Dave Hunt No roommate plans as of yet U. Illinois, Urbana-Champaign SSQLHUNT@UIUCVMD.bitnet Jason(?) Looking for roomate BEI@CUNYVMS1 Abby Ferber Has a room would like roommate. U. Oregon Call Abby (503) 344-9154 or leave a message for her at: alummus@darkwing.uoregon.edu. Pam Paxton I would love to know anyone else UPAMMP@unc.oit.unc.edu interested in sharing a room for Friday and Saturday night. Actually, the nights that I plan on staying are flexible too. If anyone is only staying for part of the time, any of the time, let me know. From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Sat Jun 19 08:49:21 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Sat, 19 Jun 93 08:38:44 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Sat, 19 Jun 93 15:38:44 GMT Date: 19 Jun 1993 11:24:32 -0500 (EST) From: "JOHN R. KRAFT" Subject: ASA Dates and Place? To: socgrad@ucsd.BITNET Could someone post the dates and exact place of the conference? Big thanks. John To: socgrad@ucsd.BitNet signoff From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Sat Jun 19 16:30:12 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Sat, 19 Jun 93 16:10:53 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Sat, 19 Jun 93 23:10:53 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1993 16:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Berch Berberoglu Subject: Re: ASA Dates and Place? To: "JOHN R. KRAFT" On 19 Jun 1993, JOHN R. KRAFT wrote: > > Could someone post the dates and exact place of the conference? > Big thanks. > John > Subject: abby ferber has a roomate To: sociology grad list Comrades, Abby Ferber has found a roomate for ASA! Thanks, al the red, allan lummus university of oregon alummus@darkwing.uoregon.edu From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 23 16:11:17 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 23 Jun 93 15:38:24 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Wed, 23 Jun 93 22:38:24 GMT Date: Wed, 23 Jun 93 18:09:08 EST From: steve Subject: Miami To: socgrad@ucsd.BitNet Hey, sorry to get in on this discussion so late, but between doing a 2-week research exam and bitnet kicking back the messages I've sent to socgrad, that's just the way it goes. Anyway, I'm looking for a roommate (or roommates) for ASA -so, if anyone's still free, get in touch. -steve harvey@uconnvm From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Wed Jun 23 17:16:48 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Wed, 23 Jun 93 16:38:51 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Wed, 23 Jun 93 23:38:50 GMT Date: Wed, 23 Jun 93 19:24:16 EST From: JOn Subject: Miami To: Socgrad@ucsd.BitNet I got a room for myself and several friends at the Ocean Front (or something like Beach front maybe?) Days Inn which is near the Fountainbblah and about half the price. Check into cheap hotels and commute: It's the Americ an Way. J From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Thu Jun 24 18:13:22 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Thu, 24 Jun 93 17:49:45 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 17:49:45 PDT From: voboronk@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU (Vladimir Oboronko) To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: Is there anyone out there? Is anything going on on socgrad? Would anyone respond? I am voboronk@ucsd.edu Thanks From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Thu Jun 24 19:35:25 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Thu, 24 Jun 93 19:18:01 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 16:14:26 -1000 (HST) From: Andrew Ovenden Subject: Re: Is there anyone out there? To: Vladimir Oboronko Some of us are still around. I've been waiting for everyone to return from the conference so we can get some active discussion and reviews from the conference itself. I guess only a few of us are still tied into academia through the summer (shame for those of us who live in places like Hawaii and can't get out to enjoy the beaches, sigh!), Andrew. ovenden@uhunix.hawaii.edu On Thu, 24 Jun 1993, Vladimir Oboronko wrote: > Is anything going on on socgrad? > Would anyone respond? > > I am voboronk@ucsd.edu > Thanks From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 25 07:24:22 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 25 Jun 93 07:12:30 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:09:31 CDT From: C580002@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: yes, we're out here I really don't feel sorry for people stuck in Hawaii...sorry And yes, there are several of us acad. junkies still around for the summer....good way for me to knock out another five hours of course work and pick up classes out of the department (ie history or political science)....Dj From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 25 08:58:33 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 25 Jun 93 08:23:12 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Fri, 25 Jun 93 15:22:54 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 15:22:54 GMT From: oakley@shsmps.span Subject: Making connections To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Is anyone out there from Washington State University? I'm an incoming student in the fall, and will be up in Pullman July 8-12 trying to secure housing and making some connections. I'd love to get together with any of you who will be in town then. You can contact me at coakley@ucsd.edu or (619) 534-0458 (work phone during the day. Thanks, Chris From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 25 12:51:49 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 25 Jun 93 10:48:22 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Fri, 25 Jun 93 17:47:33 GMT for MAILER@SDSC; Fri, 25 Jun 1993 17:46 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 08:49:25 CDT From: C599265@MIZZOU1.BITNET (marsha) Subject: broken engagements To: socgrad%ucsd.edu@Sdsc.Edu HELP! I am trying to find material on broken marital engagements for a re- search project on two-stage decision processes and am not having much luck. For the most part, broken engagements are treated as a mortality in studies of successful marriages and are not dicussed any further. I have found one chapt- er in one book on broken engagements that was done in 1935 by (get this) Earnes t Burgess. Any suggestions on possible authors, studies or search terms would be most appreciated. For that matter, I would also like to hear of anyone's experiences with a broken engagement (if it's not too emotionally painful). Maybe I can gain some insight into the phenomenon that way. Thanks! Marsha Wisdom Wallen c599265@mizzou1 10 Sociology Bldg. U. of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, Mo. 65211 (314) 446-3233 RECIPE: Summer Cherry Bomb 4 packages Black Cherry Kool-aid 3 cups sugar 1 gallon water 1 pint Ezra Brooks Sour Mash 1/2 bag ice stir (don't shake) From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 25 13:32:32 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 25 Jun 93 12:19:28 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 15:20 EDT From: Candace.Lewis@MVS.UDEL.EDU To: socgrad@UCSD.edu Subject: grad school/research inquiry Greetings from "Dela-where?"! I am currently a University of Delaware undergrad in soc/communications with sincere hopes of furthering my soc education through grad school; yet choosing the appropriate one seems an overwhelming process which ultimately results in a crap-shoot decision anyway. You, however, may be able to increase my odds of finding a sociology dept. or prof. which/who fulfills my interests. If you have any info. concerning profs. who are pursuing research or depts. who consistently offer coursework pertaining to the interests I've listed below, please notify me through email or at the address below. Thanks to all who respond for your time and effort on my behalf. I've always depended on the kindness of strangers... even if via electronic means. -_-_-_-_-_-_Candace's Interests-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_Geographic Interests CB/SM Theory Soc. of Culture California Mass comm/media studies Public Opinion Arizona Propaganda studies Sex & Gender Methods New Mexico Right-wing/nationalist movements Skinheads Chicago, ILL Youth Cultures New York, NY Madison, WI -_-_-_-_Universities under consideration-_-_-_-_-_-_ Nevada OSU U of WI, Madison UMich UChicago UC, Berkeley UCLA UCSD UC, Santa Cruz -_-_-_-_-_-_FOR CORRESPONDENCE-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ E-mail: Candace.Lewis@mvs.UDEL.edu U.S. mail: Gender & Society Attn: Candace J. Lewis Dept. of Sociology 322 Smith Hall University of Delaware Newark, DE 19716 From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Fri Jun 25 16:13:23 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Fri, 25 Jun 93 15:24:50 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 18:19:11 EDT From: Joya Misra Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA Subject: GRAD PROGRAMS To: SOCGRAD@UCSD.EDU Hi, The last message made me think of my own query. My younger sister is an undergrad at Rice University, and is very interested in going to grad school. She is into sociolinguistics, symbolic interactionism, etc. Since I am a political economist, I have had trouble steering her to specific schools, although I have heard that UCSB is good for these areas. Can any of you make any more suggestions? And if you're in this program, can you tell me (briefly) what it's like? She's a junior, so there's no rush on this. My address is SOCAK663@EMUVM1. BITNET or SOCAK663@EMUVM1.CC.EMORY.EDU Thanks a lot guys! Joya From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Mon Jun 28 22:45:49 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Mon, 28 Jun 93 22:33:21 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Tue, 29 Jun 93 16:32:26 EST From: (Fiona Wright) To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: Fellowship >Woodrow Wilson Awards Offered > >Applications are called for 1994-1995 Fellowships in the Humanities and >Social Sciences offered by the Woodrow Wilson International Centre in >Washington DC. > >The Centre awards approximately 35 Fellowships annually. Men and women with >outstanding capabilities and experience from a wide variety of backgrounds >(including government, the corporate world, and the professions, as well >as academia) are eligible to apply. For academic participants, elibility >is limited to the postdoctoral level. For other applicants an equivalent >degree of professional achievement is expected. Fellowships are preferably >for an academic year with airfares and a yearly stipend of approximately >US$42 000 being provided. > >Deadline for applications is 1 October 1993. > >Application forms may be obtained from: > >The Fellowships Office >The Woodrow Wilson Centre >1000 Jefferson Drive SW >Washington DC 20560 >S1 MRC 022 >Tel: (202) 357 2841 >Fax: (202) 357 4439 > > > From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jun 29 11:20:29 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Tue, 29 Jun 93 10:45:31 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 13:20:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Ryan Subject: Heading south To: socgrad Greetings from New Haven, At least two of us will be driving down to Miami from Connecticut for ASA (we're operating in the split-costs-save-bucks and enjoy-the-road paradigms here), and we are wondering if: o there's anyone from this area (or along the way) who might want to join in the carpool (or the caravan, if it comes to that), and o whether anyone (in NC, SC, GA, for example) wants to put up two (or more) wandering sociologists along the way (in trade for stories, data, editorial assistance, dinner out, future recommendations, accomodation in our fair city sometime, babysitting services, tell you the latest in the Yale sociology saga, etc., etc., as you please). The second is, admittedly, a long shot, but given the fact that Ligia and I are two of the nicest and most interesting folks you are likely to meet at the convention, it seemed worth giving socgrad folks an opportunity to get in on the ground floor, so to speak, in making our acquaintance. But seriously,.... We are Dan Ryan and Ligia Tavera and we are two of about six Yale students who will be in Miami, but the only ones (so far who have decided to drive). We are, respectively, a sixth year working on dissertation (on meaning of "organization" in fledgling neighborhood level organizations) and a fourth year writing prospectus (political sociology -- notions of citizenship). Car-wise, we figure that fuel, etc will run $200 or so and that the journey will take 2 days each way (barring good reasons to stop longer along the way). If you're interested in coming along or in having visitors, you can get in touch via email -- danryan@minerva.cis.yale.edu -- or voice -- 203-498-7505. In any case, looking forward to hearing what folks are up to for the summer, and of meeting some of you at ASA. Cheers, Dan From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jun 29 14:29:04 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Tue, 29 Jun 93 13:36:45 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 17:35 AST From: GRD4010@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA Subject: ASA program? To: socgrad@ucsd.edu As the subject heading implies, I was wondering if anyone knew where one might obtain a copy, electronically, of the program (or programme as we say in Canada) for the upcoming ASA meetings. ...?...! Thanks in advance. Chris. From socgrad-relay@UCSD.EDU Tue Jun 29 17:13:48 1993 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun Tue, 29 Jun 93 16:48:07 -0700 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odq -oi -fsocgrad-relay socgrad-list Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 10:47:26 EST From: (Fiona Wright) To: socgrad@ucsd.edu Subject: ANZ Society of Criminology Conference Title: "Crime and Social Division" The 9th Annual Australian and New Zealand Society of Criminology Conference Date: 28 September - 1 October 1993 Venue: The Womens College, University of Sydney Keynote Speaker: Professor David Garland, University of Edinburgh, Scotland Topics include: Postcolonial Policing/Policing Politics Crime & Justice Hate Crime Occupational Health and Safety Drugs, Gender & Deviance Information Economy The Media Coverage of Crime Corporate Crime Domestic Violence Homicide HIV and the Law Juvenile Justice Prisons Women and Sentencing Registration Fees: Early Bird (prior to 16 August 1993) Society members $130 Non Member $ 170 Full time student $ 45 After 16 August Members $150 Non members $190 Full time student $60 Conference Dinner: $45 Cocktails/Crime Fiction Session: $15 Optional Session: Deaths in Custody $25 Further information and registration forms available from: The Conference Conveners c/- The Institute of Criminology 173 - 175 Phillip Street Sydney NSW 2000 Fax: 02 221 5635 Tel: 02 225 9239 E mail: fionaw@sulaw.law.su.oz.au