Return-Path: <@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU:wsn@CSF.COLORADO.EDU> Received: from JHUVM (NJE origin JHUSMTP@JHUVM) by JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2373; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 10:57:15 -0500 Received: from csf.Colorado.EDU by JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 16 Mar 93 10:57:12 EST Received: from localhost by csf.Colorado.EDU (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA08699; Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:59:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:59:07 -0700 Message-Id: <01GVVGNRNF3S0004LY@cofc.edu> Errors-To: roper@csf.Colorado.EDU Reply-To: FRIEDMAND@cofc.edu Originator: wsn@csf.colorado.edu Sender: wsn@csf.Colorado.EDU Precedence: bulk From: FRIEDMAND@cofc.edu To: chriscd@jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu Subject: A Short History... X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK TO: World Systems Seminar FROM: Doug Friedman RE: Wagar's Epic/Partial Review Sorry for the delay -- I only have a partial review here since the book came in only last week and, in the meantime, we've had a bit of weather here this weekend... As science fiction goes (and I'm no critic - although I know what I like) this was pretty acceptable stuff. Not as good as Heinlein or Pohl or Herbert or (maybe it wasn't that good come to think of it), but then again he is writing history (sort of) too. In any case, he has a different kind of axe to grind compared to your average (and not so average) SF author. Let me note what I see as objectionable so far -- I'm 3/4 finished. 1. So far I do not see how this work is significant in its use of world systems theory. Wagar occasionally makes passing reference to it, accepts a rather simplistic rendering of the world capitalist system as his starting point, but it seems to be an ornament not a tool of analysis. -- In fact, the transformation of the system occurs as a result of nuclear war (why not a meteor hit or an invasion of little green men??) [BTW is the commonwealth a world system or world empire - and what is the significance of this???] 2. The politics in this work are very very simplistic -- almost embarrassing at times. This perception may well be because Wagar is an historian and I am a political scientist. All of this is much too conspiratorial for me (although it makes good fiction it makes for lousy social science -- don't get me wrong, there is a place for conspiracy but not everything can be explained in those terms -- it leaves out most of humanity). There is very little real discussion of the political mechanics needed to achieve the development of an entity like the world party, for example. Here, although for other reasons, I would agree with Bob Ross in his criticism of Wagar's uncritical use of socialism --planned economy, etc. Perhaps if he had used the concept of market socialism??? Anyway, he throws around concepts like democracy, socialism, participation, etc. with very little rigor. makes for good fiction but poor social science This is not my last word -- a brief first foray.