Return-Path: <@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU:wsn@CSF.COLORADO.EDU> Received: from JHUVM (NJE origin JHUSMTP@JHUVM) by JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8145; Tue, 7 Sep 1993 10:24:24 -0400 Received: from csf.Colorado.EDU by JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 07 Sep 93 10:24:21 EDT Received: from (localhos [127.0.0.1]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.5/8.5/CNS1.0) with SMTP id IAA16974; Tue, 7 Sep 1993 08:24:09 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 08:24:09 -0600 Message-Id: <01H2NUB2S88Y8WXA4Q@DEPAUW.EDU> Errors-To: chriscd@jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu Reply-To: THALL@depauw.edu Originator: wsn@csf.colorado.edu Sender: wsn@csf.colorado.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tom Hall To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: More comments on electronic journaling X-Listserver-Version: 6.0 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK Some thoughts on WSN electronic journal. I think Don Roper's suggestion is very useful. Working with a journal, _Review_, or failing that, making a gradual transition. One way this might be done is to continue to archive material as is being done, and when sufficient papers get to final form, or at least a form which author(s)' are willing to have cited and quoted, issue them as a journal. A major trade off is between respectability (espec. re tenure decisions) vs rapid turn around and electronic point and shoot writing (Boswell & T. Roberts' concerns). Respectability needs to be earned, the way to progress toward that is to have good papers, but that will involve putting stuff here that could go elsewhere. Probably something that cannot be asked of those facing a tenure decision. We will also need to make our own sort of "rules" or "norms" with respect to print journals. I see several options: a) if we do it as a journal that's it, no republishing b) if we do it as journal, it can be republished ONLY in a print journal, with due acknowledgement that we had it first electronically. While we might accept this, print journals might not, that's where a working arrangement with one or more print journals would be useful. c) we don't care what else author's do with papers One possibility would be to have the referring electronic, with a posting or archiving of referees' comments. If we are to do blind refereeing, then papers and comments will need to filter through an editor who will repost to the net with initial identifiers stripped. One way around this is to follow what some science journals are already doing: signed reviews. The idea here is that in any small set of people working on similar problems, anonymity is really a charade, so allow form reflect substance. If we go through an informal posting open comments & discussion, then "referees" can draw on those discussions in making their comments and recommendations. I see some other practical problems: A. How do libraries track us? Who will maintain an archive if our archivist, or its host, gives up? B. How does word of us get around? to subscribers to submitters to indexers Finally, the largest problem I see, is getting someone to do all the necessary work to get such an enterprise going. It will almost certainly need to be someone with tenure and security whose institution will "credit" the effort expended. This may be the real sticking point. Basically, I like the idea. It would be useful to learn something of how other electronic journals operate (there is a growing literature on this). One final suggestion is that all of us who are writing World-System (+ or - the hyphen) stuff post working drafts of papers to the WSN archive, and post short abstracts on the net. We might collectively try to comment on one or two per month. My own preference would be for author(s) to identify intended audience and purpose so that critiques will be most useful to authors. If we get enough action going here this way, we will already be partway toward a journal of our own. Enough blather from me for this round... Tom Hall with a new, third & preferred email address: thall@depauw.edu